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  • Falstaff
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 2317

    RFID for permenant emplacement in guns



    Hmm, I wonder why they'd want to do this?
  • #2
    dieselpower
    Banned
    • Jan 2009
    • 11471

    not happening...and if it does....
    a) You will never hear about it.
    b) If you do hear about it, you will also hear about the RFID destroyer tool.

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    • #3
      wash
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2007
      • 9011

      At the risk of answering a sarcastic question it might be used for police departments to track their gun inventory.

      I'm sure someone will start screaming for this in every gun even though a folded piece of aluminum foil could probably defeat the system.
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      • #4
        dieselpower
        Banned
        • Jan 2009
        • 11471

        Checkpoint and Sensormatic are two companies in the retail world suppling companies with RFID tracking tags (shoplift deterrent tags). Ten years ago they were offering to embed the tags INTO the packaging..into the container walls...INTO the item. All they needed was access to the manufacturing facility and they would design the best place to place the tag inside the manufacturing process.

        For Aspirin it was either inside the walls of the box..nothing to peel away..or inside the plastic bottles label or under it..or INSIDE the lid.

        Anything you buy right now can have an RFID in it RIGHT NOW...and you wouldn't even know it.

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        • #5
          OleCuss
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2009
          • 7823

          I'd bet that within one year one of my friends may be putting a sort of RFID into handguns at the request of the owner. Heck, I may pay him to do that with mine.
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          • #6
            five.five-six
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2006
            • 34704

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            • #7
              chiselchst
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              • Oct 2008
              • 2025

              What is the range for RFID detection? Isn't it fairly short?
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              • #8
                safewaysecurity
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2010
                • 6166

                Originally posted by dieselpower
                =
                b) If you do hear about it, you will also hear about the RFID destroyer tool.
                It's called 5 seconds in the microwave
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                • #9
                  MaHoTex
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 5002

                  How about this... Put an RFID device activated solenoid on the Mag release button. Then a ring on your finger with the RFID chip. If you do not have the ring (tool in this case) the mag release can not be activated. The ring acts as the tool, without the tool located within inches of the RFID reader (Mag release button in this case) you can not release the Mag.
                  Last edited by MaHoTex; 12-08-2010, 7:28 PM.
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                  • #10
                    MaHoTex
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 5002

                    Originally posted by chiselchst
                    What is the range for RFID detection? Isn't it fairly short?
                    Range depends. You can have it max out at inches, and some go over 100 feet.
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                    • #11
                      OleCuss
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 7823

                      OK, it turns out we're all a bit behind the times.

                      Talked to my friend and it's been done before. Both RFID and pingers. Some rather large customers were not happy - probably a matter of training. And no, no specifics as to who the customers were will be forthcoming.
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                      • #12
                        Scott Connors
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 879

                        Originally posted by safewaysecurity
                        It's called 5 seconds in the microwave
                        That could be very...impressive (as in 4th of July) if you try this with a metal firearm.
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                        • #13
                          vincewarde
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1911

                          Who in the world would trust this?

                          When millions of guns have already been produced without the tags? What value would it have in say, airport security? Absolutely none.

                          As far as tracking new guns, as has been mentioned, killing the tag would be easy. Just a dumb idea.

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                          • #14
                            SupportGeek
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 752

                            Originally posted by chiselchst
                            What is the range for RFID detection? Isn't it fairly short?
                            For this one, the Article states 50cm with a handheld reader and up to a meter with a fixed (doorway style) reader
                            Originally posted by oaklander
                            At this point, you are not even playing checkers, you are playing marbles, and it appears that some of yours may have been misplaced.

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                            • #15
                              BigFatGuy
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 3176

                              Originally posted by chiselchst
                              What is the range for RFID detection? Isn't it fairly short?
                              if the RFID tag is passive it's generally short (inches) although it can be massive if the RFID reader is powerful enough.

                              With a powered RFID tag it can be up to 60 or 75 feet without high powered reception gear.
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