DOJ knocking on doors, Orange County

[paddyraid]

go back inside, play with a hicap mag, make a bowl of guac?

[paddyraid]

Or, UPS shows up with the recently ordered SCM's while they are standing there lol, open door, grab box, shut door.

LMFAO AGAIN!!!!

[kcstott]

Starting 01-01-2019, all unregistered self-made firearms are illegal in CA. [PC 29180(g)]

If you owned a self-made firearm before 2019, then you had to register it with CA DOJ before 07-01-2018, in order to remain CA legal. [PC 29181(c)]

Incorrect. You skipped (A) in the code above.

Please read the exemptions. I.e. the section on firearms marked pursuant to chapter 44 beginning with section 921 part 1 of tittle 18 of the US code of regulations.

No where is it prohibited under federal code to mark your own home made weapons as long as you do so to the specifications outlined in the federal code. An unlicensed person may mark their own firearms according to federal code.

So if you did two things you do not need to register a damn thing.

1. Build your weapon featureless before the cut off date
2. Mark your weapon to the federal specs before the cut off date.

I been saying this for a long time and no one does the home work to figure it out.

[kcstott]

Because he's one of those loser scary cat guys that thinks building home-build 80...have to register or else he's breaking the laws and doesn't want to spend some happy time in a small room. Don't get me wrong hear but a lot of gun owners did the same... These people don't understand that their a CATCH to this registration! Like I always stated... Shut your mouth and don't say or show anything to guys that loves taking things away from you. Period!!! If you or him are those kind of guy's that are afraid of breaking or validating the law than I suggested you and those groups should move to a very small island where theirs always heavy storm and high tsunami. I'm not saying to break every laws but you have to be smart about it. Learn a bit about being street smart but leave the book smart out for once in a while. I think you already know or if not than... This how it goes. These thugs breaks their own laws to put you and I away, that's what they're very good at and that's why they're hired, train, etc to do. Last is what makes you think why they have all the greatest tools and we don't. When you have something close or similarity to what they have, what do they do... They come knock on your door because they don't want you to have what they have. Word!!!

No law breaking required. There were two exemptions to the laws involved which were quite easy to comply with yet allowed you to own your weapon without fear of confiscation nor registration. PC 29181 (A) lists the exemption for serial numbers quite clearly.

[CenterX]

If you bought in CA a long gun after 1/1/2014 or a handgun after 1991, then you registered guns.

Does a person need to register everything owned prior to these dates?

[kcstott]

Does a person need to register everything owned prior to these dates?

He is referring to store bought guns. There is no law for the possession of an unregistered weapon.

Assault weapons aside of course.

[Sierra57]

Got a message this morning "California Department of justice agents knocked on my door and we had a discussion about my sse1 80%."

No more info.

Was the person who sent the message a friend of yours? How was the message sent? Calguns PM? Text message? Email? Instant message?

I wonder if Bacerra's jackboots arrested the poor bastage on some BS charge.

[.45 ACP]

If you bought in CA a long gun after 1/1/2014 or a handgun after 1991, then you registered guns.

It was an 80% man. An 80%! No one knew he had it except him and maybe the guy he bought the 80 from. I don't understand why anyone would willingly do an 80 build just to register it.

Far better to move it out of state (legal), or not acknowledge it exist at all.

[sirsloth]

Incorrect. You skipped (A) in the code above.

Please read the exemptions. I.e. the section on firearms marked pursuant to chapter 44 beginning with section 921 part 1 of tittle 18 of the US code of regulations.

No where is it prohibited under federal code to mark your own home made weapons as long as you do so to the specifications outlined in the federal code. An unlicensed person may mark their own firearms according to federal code.

So if you did two things you do not need to register a damn thing.

1. Build your weapon featureless before the cut off date
2. Mark your weapon to the federal specs before the cut off date.

I been saying this for a long time and no one does the home work to figure it out.

Interesting. Can you link or quote the relevant text in the US Code?

I think this is the general section but I'm having a hard time finding the parts relevant to the exemption:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/part-I/chapter-44

[aklon]

It's really disappointing how brainwashed some have become to submit to authority....

en masse to challenge any of this; no, we've become accustomed to them pouring the slow acting poison down our throat and we're grateful for whatever life they leave us?

Now the left is 2/3 of the way there largely because they have tripped over nothing on their road to that gun-free socialist paradise, you know, the one right next door to the abattoir.

And we helped them by doing nothing except whine and wail "Where was the NRA" when we should have been the ones carrying the fight, not some fund raising outfit in Waples Mills, Virginia.

There, I've said it. The next time one of you ninnies moans and cries when DoJ shows up to inspect then remove the rifle you willingly told them you have, look in the mirror and you'll see someone who never asked: do I really believe in liberty or is it easier to just submit?

[God Bless America]

There, I've said it. The next time one of you ninnies moans and cries when DoJ shows up to inspect then remove the rifle you willingly told them you have, look in the mirror and you'll see someone who never asked: do I really believe in liberty or is it easier to just submit?

Unless you were importing prohibited items like hicap mags, listed AW's, off-roster handguns, and selling them here to other Californians, then you are no different.

Skulking around with an unregistered AW in your (or your mom's) basement isn't revolution, it's ridiculous.

Walk the walk, then you can tell us to do what you have done.

Are you shooting your unserialed AW in public?

Driving around with it in your car?

Are you?

[jasonjm]

From my understanding, 3% of owners registered. Very succesful law that was.

[aklon]

Unless you were importing prohibited items like hicap mags, listed AW's, off-roster handguns, and selling them here to other Californians, then you are no different.

Skulking around with an unregistered AW in your (or your mom's) basement isn't revolution, it's ridiculous.

Walk the walk, then you can tell us to do what you have done.

Are you shooting your unserialed AW in public?

Driving around with it in your car?

Are you?

Ah, a little "whataboutism?"

You have no right to ask any of this of a free man, and I am not about to post my s**t here in public like so many others do.

[RickD427]

Gents,

We're two pages into this discussion now.

Has anyone identified any door that was actually knocked upon by the nice agents at DOJ?

Or is this turning into another thread describing a cat chasing its own tail?

[God Bless America]

Ah, a little "whataboutism?"

You have no right to ask any of this of a free man, and I am not about to post my s**t here in public like so many others do.

So then quit telling others what they ought to do.

Either you have unregistered AW's, and you are hiding them; or

You don't, so you have no right to dictate on the matter.

Either way, shuddup already.