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  • #76
    cyborg
    Banned
    • Dec 2016
    • 333

    It's time for an injunction against this infringing unconstitutional crap.

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    • #77
      chills
      Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 176

      Originally posted by johnonymous
      Another nugget - redefining their OAL requirement to measure from the bare muzzle, or a permanently fixed muzzle device. Many folding AKs & Tavors will be affected.
      I didn't think there was a OAL for a CA RAW? Only Fed 26" to be concerned with.

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      • #78
        prkprisoner
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Jul 2004
        • 361

        Not the first time the DOJ has pushed underground legislation

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        • #79
          scratchgolf
          Member
          • Oct 2015
          • 153

          What is stopping someone from taking multiple lower receivers and registering them one by one with the same parts?

          If I own two or more lower receivers for the same type of rifle (AR-15) how could the DOJ say that I didn't already build both of them?

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          • #80
            sltdude
            Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 231

            Originally posted by sbrady@Michel&Associates
            NRA and CRPA have obtained the text of the proposed regs. An analysis of them will be coming shortly from our office.


            California DOJ Proposes Regulations on "Bullet-Button Assault Weapons"

            The California Department of Justice (DOJ) has filed proposed regulations on "Bullet Button Assault Weapons" with the Office of Administrative Law (OAL).

            CRPA and NRA attorneys are currently reviewing the proposed regulations and will be providing a detailed analysis soon.

            The regulations can be read here.

            To ensure that you receive the most current information on these new regulations and are able to view the CRPA and NRA anaylsis as soon as it is available, please sign up for CRPA email alerts here and also visit CRPA.org regularly.

            Thank you for standing with CRPA as we work to preserve the Second Amendment in California.

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            • #81
              stphnman20
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2005
              • 6583

              tagged

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              • #82
                johnonymous
                Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 189

                Originally posted by chills
                I didn't think there was a OAL for a CA RAW? Only Fed 26" to be concerned with.
                CA requires 30" for centerfire semi, and has separate SBR requirement of 26", both apparently measured according to these new rules.

                Interestingly, this leaves you with another class of rifles (newly considered too short w/ unattached muzzle device but otherwise featureless) redefined into AWs, that they will refuse to register. Also apparently no grace period for compliance on that as for BB AW's, it's just a pure new regulation to make insta-felons.

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                • #83
                  pacrimguru
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 3595

                  Originally posted by johnonymous
                  Another nugget - redefining their OAL requirement to measure from the bare muzzle, or a permanently fixed muzzle device. Many folding AKs & Tavors will be affected.
                  It's written:
                  "Overall length of less than 30 inches" with respect to a centerfire rifle means the rifle has been measured in the shortest possible configuration that the weapon will function/fire and the measurement is less than 30 inches.
                  But what does that even mean? Isn't a rifle considered an AW in California when it is less than 30" but have a minimum length of 26"? Are they trying to change the OAL definition of an AW to a minimum of 30"?

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                  • #84
                    ifilef
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 5665

                    Originally posted by prkprisoner
                    Not the first time the DOJ has pushed underground legislation
                    I started a thread about the definition of underground regulation that may clarify things for you:

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                    • #85
                      Kolaczyk
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4

                      I do hope that someone/anyone that is willing to register/comply with this BS please include a middle finger in the photos that they submit.



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                      • #86
                        scottz
                        Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 172

                        Funny how most everyone on this site thought that you'd be able to change to a standard mag release after registering. It was pretty clear that wasn't the case from the beginning.....

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                        • #87
                          johnonymous
                          Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 189

                          Originally posted by pacrimguru
                          But what does that even mean? Isn't a rifle considered an AW in California when it is less than 30" but have a minimum length of 26"? Are they trying to change the OAL definition of an AW to a minimum of 30"?
                          The requirements stack. Centerfire semi (or manual for that matter) < 26" is an SBR. Centerfire semi < 30" is an AW. One can be both.

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                          • #88
                            tonyxcom
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 6397

                            A rifle with a OAL of less than 30" but greater than 26" was considered an AW.

                            The PDF states that now 30" needs to include permanently attached muzzle devices. That is new - the muzzle device only need to be perm to make 16" barrel, not 30" OAL.

                            What isn't clear yet is if your new BB Raw needs to be >26" or >30"

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                            • #89
                              jcwatchdog
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2555

                              But AWWWWW....When they say "shall not be changed after the assault weapon is registered", there is nothing to answer if someone say, "I'm going to change it anyways, what are you going to do about it?"
                              Last edited by jcwatchdog; 12-30-2016, 6:34 PM.

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                              • #90
                                Sousuke
                                Veteran Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 3355

                                Originally posted by scottz
                                Funny how most everyone on this site thought that you'd be able to change to a standard mag release after registering. It was pretty clear that wasn't the case from the beginning.....
                                to be fair i mentioned the mag magnet option quite awhile ago.
                                Everyone on Calguns keeps talking about TDS. I never knew we had so many fish keepers!

                                The TDS on my 10gallon tanks 110ppm
                                The TDS on my 29 gallon tank is 150ppm (due to substrate)

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