MERGED THREADS "Bullet Button Assault Weapon" Regs

[winwithagrin]

If in 2017, all BB guns are considered AW's, then can't we just swap a BB for a regular mag release and then register it?

It looks like you're required to submit multiple photos of the gun from multiple angles to show that you did indeed have a BB on it at the time of registration.

[Cokebottle]

https://cdn.firearmspolicy.org/wp-co...egulations.pdf

They included "shotgun"


The clarified that removal of the magazine catch is still a detachable magazine... the "wheel lock" type combination key posted last week is absolutely not compliant for 2017.

Specified that "disassembly of the action" for the AR15 is met by pivoting the upper forward. No FCG components need to be disturbed.


Registration:
Photos are required, including a photo of the bullet button installed.
Co-habitant registration is allowed, one person must be declared as the primary. All joint registrants must be 18 as of December 31 2017
Co-registration is limited to spouse/domestic partner, siblings, and children/grandchildren.
Proof of residence of all registrants/co-registrants is required.

Previously-engraved 80% lowers are screwed. They MUST be issued a DOJ issued serial number or they will not be registered.

Aaand we're screwed....

[1911su16b870]

Section 5470 ...Which Weapons Must be Registered...

(b) A semiautomatic, centerfire firearm (rifle, pistol, shotgun) with an ammunition feeding device that can be readily removed from the firearm with the use of a tool,...

(c) A semiautomatic, rimfire pistol...

[epilepticninja]

If they try to create a new class of assault weapons I'm probably not even going to bother with registration.

After reading everything you have to do to register, fork that. Glad I'm leaving Cali in 2017.

[csshih]

It would appear they're not allowing you to put your own serial number on an 80% "AW" anymore.

5474.2. Registration of Assault Weapons Pursuant to Penal Code Section 30900(b)(1); Firearm Manufactured By Unlicensed Subject (FMBUS) A person seeking assault weapon registration for this tyke of firearm shall seek a Department issued serial number at: dojserialnumber@doj.ca.gov prior to initiating the assault weapon registration process.

(a) Firearms lacking-government-issued serial numbers that have been engraved or otherwise applied to the firearm pursuant to federal law at the time of application, shall not be registered by the Department until such time as a Department provided serial number has been applied as follows:

(1) .The Department shall issue a unique serial number to the applicant. The serial
number issuance is a separate process and must be done before the assault weapon application will be accepted by the Department Applicants seeking a FMBUS related serial number shall complete a New Serial Number application Form BOF1008, (Rev 12/201 hereby incorporated by reference and submit it to the Department prior to the initiation of the registration of this type of firearm.

(2) Once the applicant has received a DOJ issued serial number the applicant may contact a Federal Firearms Licensed Manufacturer (type 07) to have the serial number applied in a manner consistent with this section and federal law However a Federal Firearms Licensee is under no obligation to perform this work. Persons who have manufactured their own firearm may also use non-licensed parties to apply the serial number and other required markings; however, the owner of the weapon must not leave the firearm unattended with an unlicensed party in violation of firearms transfer and/or lending laws. Proof of the serial number being applied to the firearm shall be given to the Department in the form of one or more digital photographs of the newly serialized firearm being submitted in accordance with the photo requirement noted in section 5474 (c).

[Raindown]

wait for Michel & Associates analysis.

[skyscraper]

Check this out, They want photos of the gun and bullet button:

(c)
Clear digital photos of firearms listed on th e application One photo shall depict the bullet- button style magazine release installed on the firearm One photo shall depict the firearm from the end of the barrel to the end of the stock if it is a long~gun or the point furthest from the end of the barrel if it is a pistol. The other two photos shall show the left side of the receiver lframe and right side of the receiver/frame These locations are typically
..firearms are marked when manufacturing is complete At the discretion of the Department the last two photos shall be substituted for photos of identification markings at some other
:locations on the firearm.

I think compliance just went down below 5%. What a ****ing joke.

Edit: Cokebottle already posted above.

[chills]

yup it's registerageddon

[csshih]

wait for Michel & Associates analysis.

this text isn't too hard to understand. whether it's legal is a question for the lawyers.

Welcome to Calguns!

[Maltese Falcon]

So I already have two AR pistols already registered as such with my S/Ns.

Now what?, I have to get another S/Ns put on it? ...and how do you register under two S/Ns?

What a ****ing mess...

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[johnonymous]

The description of home-builders as "Unlicensed Subjects" is at least delightfully frank as to their opinion of us.

[johnonymous]

Another nugget - redefining their OAL requirement to measure from the bare muzzle, or a permanently fixed muzzle device. Many folding AKs & Tavors will be affected.

[Steve1968LS2]

Probably going to make a new class of assault weapon, with BB. This will then not let us remove the BB because it will be a registered BB assault weapon. Just my thoughts

Liking my featureless more and more..

At least when they make them AW I will have a regular mag release..

This state is soooooooo f'd up.. it's just sad

[Steve1968LS2]

Another nugget - redefining their OAL requirement to measure from the bare muzzle, or a permanently fixed muzzle device. Many folding AKs & Tavors will be affected.

Or a PS90...

[ChuckDizzle]

Just so everyone is clear, regulations can't create brand new punishments for breaking the law. If they say the bullet button has to remain on, there is nothing to threaten us with if it's taken off. Possession of a registered AW without a bullet button isn't mentioned in the law anywhere...

The only thing they can threaten you with is denying your registration if it isn't on in the photo as they were given authority to create the registration process and requirements, but they don't have authority to arbitrarily require certain features to remain on your AW after registration.

They don't have the authority to tell any RAW owner that their flash hider can't be changed to a brake, or that a adjustable stock can't be changed to a fixed one. Same with the mag release as the description of a detachable magazine is defined in law.