AB 1663- Chiu, 2016 - Dead in Committee

[mag360]

Laws are just words, enforcement of unconstitutional laws is tyranny.

Brandishing guns is wrong unless your life is being threatened,
And It's counter productive because it scares people.

I dont think so. What are you going to do wait til they are pushing you in the oven

[Whiskey_Tango]

Only in a few other states like New York, New Jersey, etc. While the California Legislature has been and will be passing laws that further restrict firearms, most other states have been moving in the opposite direction: passing laws that remove restrictions and increase gun owner rights. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...postcount=2033

The idea that California-style gun control will inevitably spread across the rest of the country is a fallacy. Things will continue to get worse in California and a handful of other (liberal) states as they compete with each other to have the "strongest" gun control laws, while gun rights are in good shape and getting even better in a majority of states.

^This. There would NEVER be a nation wide AWB. GLWYFS

[umd]

Not likely. When they finish manuscripting this piece of crap, they will likely put in for an all out ban. Featureless or a Monster-Man grip, may be the only option.

This bill deletes the concept of features. ALL centerfire semiautos are treated the same.

[skyscraper]

on the flip side.
if this passes, we get grandfathered.
then have to register our semis as AW.
an AW is an AW.
i'm puttin the regular mag release, 100 rd drum & a giggle switch on every lower i own.

Not unless you owned that drum prior to Jan 1 2000. Dont forget the other draconian laws of this state.

[edwardm]

Exactly.

We can indeed beat this, don't think it's not possible.

The only way this is beaten is if Brown gives it the ol' middle finger. And for the sake of argument, let's say he does. OK, that's nice.

And then, the next time around? This is the Gay Marriage strategy all over again. They kept throwing sh*t at the wall until something stuck. Then they took that opportunity to get into more courts, and eventually to SCOTUS. I applaud them. And as hard as it was for them, the LGBTTPSJZYZWTFROFLBBQ? crowd had it generally much easier - they are a group that garners sympathy from many parts of society.

To the typical Californian progressive (i.e. the mentally ill), gun owners are Satan's Little Helpers. We rape nuns, build 50 caliber multiautomatic baby mulching death machines in our garages, while masturbating to Neo-Nazi music and burning crosses to keep warm.

So, you stop it this session. It's coming back next session. And again, and again, until a governor of even weaker character, bereft of any ethics or morals, occupies Sacramento. That man or woman will sign in a heartbeat.

The only solution is that in my signature. I'm not talking about or advocating violence, not even bringing firearms. We can even give it a catchy name, like the "Community Rights Network". Put 10,000 2A supporters in the middle of Sacramento, blocking traffic, holding up tactful signs, and get some attention. Play the "woe is me" card, not the "how dare you" card.

You can save the bullets and gasoline for later, but probably not much later at this rate.

[sothoth]

...they know that even if it passes and gets ruled unconstitutional a decade later, the 'damage' is already done.



So sick of these people.

I doubt this one will be ruled unconstitutional since assault weapon bans haven't been successfully challenged in the courts thus far. So I think it's important to fight it now before it gets to that point.

If they have language there about confiscation it's likely to be vetoed.

[Dutch3]

while the opening of the RAW registry feels enticing to those of us who wish to liberate our rifles from their bullet button shackles, we shouldn't be seeing this as a silver lining.

We all know what registration will eventually lead to.

[Hoooper]

So do we start working on Brown now, or after this passes out of the legislature?

[foxtrotuniformlima]

So do we start working on Brown now, or after this passes out of the legislature?

no. We start working on our state representatives now and get them, especially the ones who will be on the committee for these, to work against them.

WE have won before. WE can win again.

[diverwcw]

I'm not sure Moonbeam would sign this but I have no doubt newscum would.

[JustEd]

Unless we see some large rallies at the Capitol, I will presume local semi-auto mag fed weapon owners are willing to roll over. Hell, I don't even own one and would gladly get loud and proud...in an orderly lawful manner. This does not apply to those who live outside the Sacto area.

[sl0re10]

On other thing I'd like to add:

We need to start MUCH earlier on fighting this one

agree. Getting the word out is one of our major weak points. We don't get it done.

We need some kind of messaging / propaganda of our own to let people know what is happening...

[UberPatriot]

There is always a choice. Siding with a party is always a conscious and willful act.



Your definition of "center" is way off as seen by the recent *historical* Republican successes nationwide. The center in CA has moved, alright, but only because CA has moved to the left.

Also, I don't see why "Republicans should change this." How about we hold Democrats accountable for what they are doing and their supporters accountable for electing them?

Republicans and gun owners are the victims here. Blaming the victim is supposedly a "right wing thingy."

Don't confuse the far left democrats in power with the people from the center that voted democrat instead of GOP in the last few elections.
the democrats are way left right now because there is no right in power to oppose them.
Who's fault is that?
The Republicans scared off the center lost the popular vote in Cali and now don't understand why nobody likes them.

[SimpleCountryActuary]

To the typical Californian progressive (i.e. the mentally ill), gun owners are Satan's Little Helpers. We rape nuns, build 50 caliber multiautomatic baby mulching death machines in our garages, while masturbating to Neo-Nazi music and burning crosses to keep warm.

Not recently.

Best!

[CessnaDriver]

no. We start working on our state representatives now and get them, especially the ones who will be on the committee for these, to work against them.

WE have won before. WE can win again.

STRESS THIS TO ALL!

But ONLY if we ALL do our part.