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  • D-M
    Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 455

    Originally posted by afteractionreport
    Ive been hesitant to buy from him because hes had some **** reviews and excuses with some customers publicly on Reddit...
    Found him through reddit too, and he spent a bunch of time helping me parse through some of the chaff out there, as well as recommended a lower-priced combo than what I had initially planned on buying because the lower priced combo was a better overall manufacture. I'll report back when everything arrives if it's up to snuff and quality.

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    • Buffman
      Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 245

      Originally posted by eric90503
      Appreciate you and all your work you've put in. Been subscribed to you channel for a while now. Do you know the background and history of Adept? Are they still you're #1 ranking lv4 atm?

      These might be the one!
      Don't know much more than they were called Diamond Age at one point, and that company still exists. Not sure if they split off, or what. They are still currently the top of the performance list for level IV.

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      • Buffman
        Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 245

        An interesting layered design IIIA today from Ronin Armour Systems:

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        • PogoJack
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 2145

          BODY ARMOR: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

          Buffman, what do you think about Bulletproof Everyone? I wear it when doing church security so as not to stand out. I have a Safe Life that is more bulky and a bit less concealable. Supposedly both are IIIA-ish. The Safe Life is NIJ tested, the other one I saw a guy shoot himself with it.
          Last edited by PogoJack; 05-02-2023, 1:22 PM.
          "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

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          • Buffman
            Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 245

            Originally posted by PogoJack
            Buffman, what do you think about Bulletproof Everyone? I wear it when doing church security so as not to stand out. I have a Safe Life that is more bulky and a bit less concealable. Supposedly both are IIIA-ish. The Safe Life is NIJ tested, the other one I saw a guy shoot himself with it.
            I don't see anything glaring wrong with Bulletproof Everyone's offerings. I would love to test and validate them. I hope to have some SafeLife Hyperline stuff to test soon

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            • D-M
              Member
              • Jun 2016
              • 455

              Originally posted by afteractionreport
              Ive been hesitant to buy from him because hes had some **** reviews and excuses with some customers publicly on Reddit...
              Everything arrived last week from John as promised and paid for.

              Everything was essentially drop-shipped from the manufacturers. Carrier direct from Shellback, plates direct from Highcom. Exactly what I ordered, quick, fair and clean.

              Apex Armor solutions is good to go as far as I'm concerned. Already planning my next purchase.

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              • Buffman
                Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 245

                Hanlin takes plate designs and improvements to a level above most. This plate performed very well!

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                • Buffman
                  Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 245

                  Helmets

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                  • PogoJack
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2145

                    BODY ARMOR: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

                    I think I may have learned in this thread or elsewhere about duct tape being used in homemade armor.

                    I have an AR500 plate that was made for backpacks and is pretty heavy, so not really super viable for EDC backpack use. It?s good to wear in a backwards facing backpack and donned quickly for bedside use. Idea was that hopefully I wouldn?t give my back to an aggressor and quick donning was paramount.

                    It has some sort of anti spall build up coating but I covered it with crisscrossing duct tape because internet lore says spalling on steel plates will slice open the jugular or carotid and it didn?t seem like it would hurt to add duct tape.

                    I guess I could buy a spall sleeve instead.

                    I have it backed with two trauma pads. Not sure if that helps with impact or not.

                    Last edited by PogoJack; 05-23-2023, 1:04 PM.
                    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

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                    • Buffman
                      Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 245

                      For the steel boys

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                      • Buffman
                        Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 245

                        Brought out the BMG for this demo

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                        • jpezzella
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 86

                          Thank you.

                          Thank you for sharing your depth of knowledge with respect to body armor. I have been planning to purchase for ages, but have not felt that I had sufficient information. You know how it is... everyone wants to sell you something.

                          I REALLY appreciate the time and thought that went into creating your thread.

                          Respectfully,

                          JP

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                          • Buffman
                            Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 245

                            These are basically a one time deal. They were made for the SOCOM contract that LTC won, and from my understanding this individual bought all of the materials to finish the plates from that company that didn't win. https://bit.ly/3PLRRzM
                            A Reddit follower was nice to send one over. Overall it's a solid RF2 plate and can handle M855A1, but not M80A1 at 22" barrel velocities


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                            • Buffman
                              Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 245

                              Adept Thunder RF2. Capable of stopping max velocity M855 and M80. Will not stop M855A1 though. As always "armorking" earns me a little bit of cheddar to buy more exotic ammo, and this time clay



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                              • Buffman
                                Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 245

                                helmet busting today

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