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  • Buffman
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    • Nov 2009
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    • afteractionreport
      CGSSA Leader
      • Jun 2013
      • 2851

      Buffman, which company have you seen had the best track record of actually working?

      And where do you usually shop for armor?

      Ive seen, optactical, esstac, and trex t any other trustworthy sites?
      Kyle "Kenosha Kid" Rittenhouse did nothing wrong

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      • Ruination Fan
        Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 301

        Originally posted by afteractionreport
        Buffman, which company have you seen had the best track record of actually working?

        And where do you usually shop for armor?

        Ive seen, optactical, esstac, and trex t any other trustworthy sites?
        I've had good luck with Kota Outfitters. They even included a pocket Constitution with my orders.
        Last edited by Ruination Fan; 04-01-2023, 1:15 PM. Reason: auto correct

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        • Ruination Fan
          Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 301

          Originally posted by Buffman
          This plate from Adept now tops the "King of the Hill" in terms of a level IV plate. Their magic lies in whatever proprietary ceramic they're using. I wonder how the threats I used compare against the Army's new 6.8.
          If this plate does interest you "sharing is caring" - buffman is my discount code https://bit.ly/3wDGX5p

          Any tests or comments on their ballistic helmets?

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          • Buffman
            Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 244

            Originally posted by Ruination Fan
            Any tests or comments on their ballistic helmets?
            I've been asked to test their helmets, but no word from Adept about it yet..

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            • Buffman
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 244

              Originally posted by afteractionreport
              Buffman, which company have you seen had the best track record of actually working?

              And where do you usually shop for armor?

              Ive seen, optactical, esstac, and trex t any other trustworthy sites?
              Esstac are good people. They sell Hesco. You can't go wrong with Highcom, LTC, Hesco, or RMA. They all have proven track records.

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              • Buffman
                Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 244

                An older tech relic that seems to be highly regarded, but I personally feed standard armor designs are better

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                • afteractionreport
                  CGSSA Leader
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 2851

                  Buffman, highcom guardian 4s17m OEM but retailed by chase tactical or Hesco 4400s?


                  Both level 4
                  Kyle "Kenosha Kid" Rittenhouse did nothing wrong

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                  • Buffman
                    Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 244

                    Originally posted by afteractionreport
                    Buffman, highcom guardian 4s17m OEM but retailed by chase tactical or Hesco 4400s?


                    Both level 4
                    Both are likely very capable. I haven't tested any Highcom hard armor, but I think Andrew has in the past. Which one is cheaper? The 4S17m has an active 10 yr CPL listing, but Hesco's 4400 is not CPL listed right now. I might error to the Highcom then

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                    • Buffman
                      Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 244

                      Hesco 3402

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                      • Buffman
                        Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 244

                        Militech Edge to Edge tile array

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                        • D-M
                          Member
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 455

                          Recently have some interactions with John Sun of Apex Armor Solutions. Very active with his clients and on various reddit threads about armor. His prices are fantastic, and he'll personally help you choose what's best for you, not what makes him the most money. Helped me into a custom bundle of plates and carriers and saved me a bunch of money. Thought I'd drop a link here in case some of y'all are worried (like me) about the various senate bills and assembly bills worming through excremento looking to ban civilians from owning body armor.

                          I did a search before posting so I'm not sure if Apex has been name-dropped in this thread before. Apologies if it has.

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                          • afteractionreport
                            CGSSA Leader
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 2851

                            Originally posted by D-M
                            Recently have some interactions with John Sun of Apex Armor Solutions. Very active with his clients and on various reddit threads about armor. His prices are fantastic, and he'll personally help you choose what's best for you, not what makes him the most money. Helped me into a custom bundle of plates and carriers and saved me a bunch of money. Thought I'd drop a link here in case some of y'all are worried (like me) about the various senate bills and assembly bills worming through excremento looking to ban civilians from owning body armor.

                            I did a search before posting so I'm not sure if Apex has been name-dropped in this thread before. Apologies if it has.

                            Ive been hesitant to buy from him because hes had some **** reviews and excuses with some customers publicly on Reddit...
                            Kyle "Kenosha Kid" Rittenhouse did nothing wrong

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                            • afteractionreport
                              CGSSA Leader
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 2851

                              Originally posted by Buffman
                              Both are likely very capable. I haven't tested any Highcom hard armor, but I think Andrew has in the past. Which one is cheaper? The 4S17m has an active 10 yr CPL listing, but Hesco's 4400 is not CPL listed right now. I might error to the Highcom then
                              I went with the hescos unfortunately...

                              But will end up buying a backup set of highcoms eventually...
                              Kyle "Kenosha Kid" Rittenhouse did nothing wrong

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                              • eric90503
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 825

                                Originally posted by Buffman
                                This plate from Adept now tops the "King of the Hill" in terms of a level IV plate. Their magic lies in whatever proprietary ceramic they're using. I wonder how the threats I used compare against the Army's new 6.8.
                                If this plate does interest you "sharing is caring" - buffman is my discount code https://bit.ly/3wDGX5p

                                Appreciate you and all your work you've put in. Been subscribed to you channel for a while now. Do you know the background and history of Adept? Are they still you're #1 ranking lv4 atm?

                                These might be the one!

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