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[Mustard]

So I got a robo dial from Iggy about a new batch of deals. "Pay $xxxx today, get some stuff, I'll pay you back 100% in 5 years". I'm interested....

Anyone here ever partake, and how did it work out for you?

[Muzz]

I bought in last August when this was first offered. Two Hawk shotguns for 5 bills. Money back in 5 years? Sure. Got my guns in a timely manner.

[Mustard]

I bought in last August when this was first offered. Two Hawk shotguns for 5 bills. Money back in 5 years? Sure. Got my guns in a timely manner.

How did the transfer work? Just pick a FFL of your choice, FS ships, and good to go? Not interested in the shotguns so much as I am the XD and glock.... how does that work with the handgun roster?

Anybody do this thing 5 or more years ago? Did you get a check in the mail from Iggy for your purchase price?

[Muzz]

That’s how the transfer works. Send the gun letter that you’ll receive, your FFL’s business card and $50 to FS per gun. They ship to your FFL who may or may not charge sales tax depending on his interpolation. He’ll charge a transfer fee cuz you didn’t buy his guns. Then there’s the $25 DROS fee on top of that. So your 5 Bills will turn into at least $650+. Add more transfer fees for more guns, etc. As for that rotten POS roster, I’d check that but I believe the XD is ok, but the Glock will be a Gen 3.
The Champion club only came out last August so those rebates are still 48 months out. Time will tell. He must really be expecting to be raking it in by 2022 to be offering everyone’s money back.

[rodralig]

QUESTION - which should the Wife use? Glock 19 or Glock 34?

Okay, as previously mentioned, am planning to take my family (wife and 2 boys) to FS for some fun-filled vacation. The boys will be taking the 4D Children's and Youth Achievement Camp and the wife will be taking the 4D DHG. I'm thinking of something else for myself - the 4D Practical Rifle. It would either be mid-December or late February, and possibly in March if the latest calendar becomes online.

Having said that - my wife hasn't shot a pistol before. I could introduce her to it, but have always been warned that wives don't listen to their husbands when it comes to, say, firearms. I left it at that...

Come class day - I would guess that the preference would be a 9mm for her, right? I have BOTH a Glock 19 and a Glock 34. Should I have her use the Glock? If so, which one? And if not, what would you recommend renting from FS? Obviously, an M&P Shield 9 sub-compact is out of the question...

Cheers,

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[damon1272]

[beanz2]

Okay, as previously mentioned, am planning to take my family (wife and 2 boys) to FS for some fun-filled vacation. The boys will be taking the 4D Children's and Youth Achievement Camp and the wife will be taking the 4D DHG. I'm thinking of something else for myself - the 4D Practical Rifle. It would either be mid-December or late February, and possibly in March if the latest calendar becomes online.

Having said that - my wife hasn't shot a pistol before. I could introduce her to it, but have always been warned that wives don't listen to their husbands when it comes to, say, firearms. I left it at that...

Come class day - I would guess that the preference would be a 9mm for her, right? I have BOTH a Glock 19 and a Glock 34. Should I have her use the Glock? If so, which one? And if not, what would you recommend renting from FS? Obviously, an M&P Shield 9 sub-compact is out of the question...

Cheers,

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As fun as the 4D Practical Rifle is, I'd sacrifice it for the 4DDHG if I were you. This way you can be there as emotional support for her. Nothing like being thrown into a 4 day class for a sport you've never done before, unless you have an unbridled enthusiasm for it. But then why hasn't she shot before if she did, and has a hubby who's into guns, right?

You don't want to be her coach, but you can be training in the next lane. The instructors will guide her through the class. But having someone familiar next to you can be very comforting through a new experience.

If you succeed in making her a gun enthusiast, your gun hobby will improve 100%, I guarantee. Trips to shooting classes will always be in the agenda, new guns will be that much easier. Believe me, I've been there.

As far as gun choices go, for which gun do you have a holster for? If for neither or for both, I'd let her shoot the G34. Dimensionally bigger guns are easier. The weight difference doesn't matter and it will recoil less.

Be sure to pick up 17 round mags at Bass Pro or somewhere on your way in. Best if you buy 10/17 magazine blocks and epoxy before you leave CA so you can bring those mags home with you.

If she likes 4DDHG, next is 4DPR for both of you. Such is a smorgasbord.

[rodralig]

That would make sense. I'll do that...

Well, this is one of the reasons that if she takes 4DDHG, I'd be taking a different class.

As fun as the 4D Practical Rifle is, I'd sacrifice it for the 4DDHG if I were you. This way you can be there as emotional support for her. Nothing like being thrown into a 4 day class for a sport you've never done before, unless you have an unbridled enthusiasm for it. But then why hasn't she shot before if she did, and has a hubby who's into guns, right?

You don't want to be her coach, but you can be training in the next lane. The instructors will guide her through the class. But having someone familiar next to you can be very comforting through a new experience.

This, too, makes absolute sense. Aside from what was mentioned above on not pairing, another reason I'm thinking of taking a different class is a shooting style-preference.

A month after I got into firearms, I took the 2DDHG and it was Weaver with push-pull, etc. It was good for me then as I was just starting out. However as I try to evolve on my own (dry practice, local classes, matches, etc.) - I have built my foundations on Isosceles. Stance is different, recoil management is different, draw stroke is a bit different, etc. I am NOT saying that one is better than the other, it is more of a preference.

Hence, maybe I'd take 4DPR...

If you succeed in making her a gun enthusiast, your gun hobby will improve 100%, I guarantee. Trips to shooting classes will always be in the agenda, new guns will be that much easier. Believe me, I've been there.

That is the intent.

As far as gun choices go, for which gun do you have a holster for? If for neither or for both, I'd let her shoot the G34. Dimensionally bigger guns are easier. The weight difference doesn't matter and it will recoil less.

Yeah, I was thinking the G34 would be better; but wanted to know what others think. BTW, I have gear for both.

Be sure to pick up 17 round mags at Bass Pro or somewhere on your way in. Best if you buy 10/17 magazine blocks and epoxy before you leave CA so you can bring those mags home with you.

I'm lost...

If I were to glue the blocks/limiters to the magazines, then it doesn't make sense buying those 17-rounders. Right?

Cheers,

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[tanks]

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This, too, makes absolute sense. Aside from what was mentioned above on not pairing, another reason I'm thinking of taking a different class is a shooting style-preference.

A month after I got into firearms, I took the 2DDHG and it was Weaver with push-pull, etc. It was good for me then as I was just starting out. However as I try to evolve on my own (dry practice, local classes, matches, etc.) - I have built my foundations on Isosceles. Stance is different, recoil management is different, draw stroke is a bit different, etc. I am NOT saying that one is better than the other, it is more of a preference. ...

They will not push Weaver onto you if you shoot a different style and look like you know what you are doing.

As someone else mentioned you could be next to her instead of pairing with her. That way you are there for support, but not having to direct her in regards to safety etc..

I know you said you would not want to teach her. However, I'd want to make sure she can rack the gun to load it. I was helping my sister a while back and she could not rack the gun as she was just using one hand and trying to pull the slide back while just holding the gun instead of pushing with the strong hand while pulling the slide with the support hand. A subtle difference but it made it work. Also, she might have to go overhand instead of the slingshot method etc., etc.. Depends on her strength.

[Muzz]

Okay, as previously mentioned, am planning to take my family (wife and 2 boys) to FS for some fun-filled vacation. The boys will be taking the 4D Children's and Youth Achievement Camp and the wife will be taking the 4D DHG. I'm thinking of something else for myself - the 4D Practical Rifle. It would either be mid-December or late February, and possibly in March if the latest calendar becomes online.

Having said that - my wife hasn't shot a pistol before. I could introduce her to it, but have always been warned that wives don't listen to their husbands when it comes to, say, firearms. I left it at that...

Come class day - I would guess that the preference would be a 9mm for her, right? I have BOTH a Glock 19 and a Glock 34. Should I have her use the Glock? If so, which one? And if not, what would you recommend renting from FS? Obviously, an M&P Shield 9 sub-compact is out of the question...

Cheers,
_

[beanz2]

I'm lost...

If I were to glue the blocks/limiters to the magazines, then it doesn't make sense buying those 17-rounders. Right?

Cheers,

_

The idea is for her to shoot the class with 17 rounders and not have to get rid of them at the end of class when you have to go home. Or you can always meet me at the end of class and give them to me.

For a newbie, not having to change magazines as often can only improve her experience.

Also if you can shoot, they will not hassle you about your isosceles stance. Many of the instructors also compete and shoot iso, they just have to instruct weaver in class.

[rodralig]

Thanks for the replies!

As take-aways,

• On the assumption that I know what I'm doing, the instructors won't be hassling me on my Iso.
• Try to get my wife into the administrative handling of the gun as early as possible - grip, stance, etc. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the slingshot, so, it would probably be the overhand for her.
• That said, if the 2D is overwhelming of a beginner, should I just go for it instead of the 4D?

That said, I did check the latest FS calendar with my kids' school. Unfortunately, there aren't any that would work. I guess I have to wait when they release the schedule for March onwards.

Again, thanks for the responses...


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[tanks]

...[*]That said, if the 2D is overwhelming of a beginner, should I just go for it instead of the 4D?[/list]

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If you look at the round counts 4 days is 600 - 700 rounds, not really much per day. Because of the relay system she will not be shooting a lot at a time anyway.

Also, the idea is for her to have fun while getting introduced to handguns. The shoot house is fun. I'd go for the 4D as originally planned.

[damon1272]

So just like when I worked at a driving school. 2 days get the concepts across. Day three is usually a partial drop in performance and day for is where everything gells. Do the four day. Also two things not mentioned bring a comfortable lawn chair bring aspirin for the sore muscles.

[rodralig]

So just like when I worked at a driving school. 2 days get the concepts across. Day three is usually a partial drop in performance and day for is where everything gells. Do the four day. Also two things not mentioned bring a comfortable lawn chair bring aspirin for the sore muscles.

Hahaha!

Will do Sir...!

Also, the idea is for her to have fun while getting introduced to handguns. The shoot house is fun. I'd go for the 4D as originally planned.

Sweet! Will do...!

BTW, the TPC in Utah - is it better to drive out? Or fly in? However, for the latter, I can't find any feasible flights...


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