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  • AAShooter
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2010
    • 7188

    Looks okay to me . . . no direct offers to sell memberships. You can advertise certificates and advice.
    Last edited by AAShooter; 07-11-2018, 2:31 PM.

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    • hobowh
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2018
      • 26

      Silly questions, but does someone know the different membership levels and how they rank? ( I know Ambassador is a step up from Diamond, but what about all the others? If you do a champion pack does it convert say a director to a commander or is director a higher level etc)

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      • AAShooter
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2010
        • 7188

        I don't know how many different types of memberships there are at FS. It would not surprise me if there is over 100 different memberships.

        Each covers are segment of classes and facilities as well as other benefits. Some of subsets of other memberships and some overlap with other memberships but each may had different features.

        To further complicate things, then there are add-ons to the memberships that provide addition offerings. So I think you are best serve to ask about specific memberships and the concierge at FS may be the best place to get a comprehensive answer for your case.

        Finally, there are some memberships you can purchase from other Front Sight members to upgrade your membership. Generally existing members can not upgrade through other members; however, there are exceptions.

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        • Larryect
          Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 303

          Good answer. In addition, Diamond and above allow you to take all the classes at Pahrump. I think anything above Diamond may allow classes at other facilities as well.
          Frontsight Ambassador

          PM me for class certificates

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          • Larryect
            Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 303

            Good answer. In addition, Diamond and above allow you to take all the classes at Pahrump. I think anything above Diamond may allow classes at other facilities as well.
            Frontsight Ambassador

            PM me for class certificates

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            • AlleninLA
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 77

              I can't recall all the levels or might be mixing up the ones that are add-ons... I listed the ones I've participated in or heard of since joining FS:

              Communicator (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
              Liberty Tree* (Access to only the intro classes for Handgun, Shotgun, Rifle)
              Patriot (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
              Legacy (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
              Diamond (All class access to Vegas)
              Diamond+Alaska* (Added access to Alaska - considered an add-on)
              Platinum (This was an old school membership before my time, so don't know what they included)
              Ambassador* (added classes to any current and future facility)
              Executive* (added Free Hotel Room Rentals and RV Space Rentals - there were different levels of Executive)
              Guardian* (Add-on - not sure there was any significant addition, maybe making it will able?)
              Patron* (Unlimited stay at the resort, 1st in/out, will, ammo club add-on. I did it cause it doubled my account holdings)
              Commander* (I think this might have replaced Executive/Patron? Resort stays when you train. Includes ammo and guns at cost add-ons)
              Director (might be considered an add-on depending on your current level, adds Front Sight TV)
              President* (Added private or private group training based on level)
              Heritage* (Timeshare reservation and future private training when the resort is done?)

              * indicates the ones I've participated in... I don't plan to follow through with Heritage though. He gave the option to cancel and revert back when it's time to collect.

              Champion isn't' a membership or add-on. He called it Champion Club. It's a money grab for him... you get "recognition" and a coin and pin and whatever promo offers for buying a certain amount.

              Originally posted by hobowh
              Silly questions, but does someone know the different membership levels and how they rank? ( I know Ambassador is a step up from Diamond, but what about all the others? If you do a champion pack does it convert say a director to a commander or is director a higher level etc)
              Last edited by AlleninLA; 07-19-2018, 12:59 PM. Reason: forgot something
              Front Sight Knight Member - Los Angeles

              Liberty Tree->Diamond+Alaska->Ambassador->Executive->Guardian->Patron->Commander->President->Knight->all into the toilet

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              • NorthBay Shooter
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 679

                Originally posted by AlleninLA
                I can't recall all the levels or might be mixing up the ones that are add-ons... I listed the ones I've participated in or heard of since joining FS:

                Communicator (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
                Liberty Tree* (Access to only the intro classes for Handgun, Shotgun, Rifle)
                Patriot (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
                Legacy (Limited classes - not sure what it included anymore)
                Diamond (All class access to Vegas)
                Diamond+Alaska* (Added access to Alaska - considered an add-on)
                Platinum (This was an old school membership before my time, so don't know what they included)
                Ambassador* (added classes to any current and future facility)
                Executive* (added Free Hotel Room Rentals and RV Space Rentals - there were different levels of Executive)
                Guardian* (Add-on - not sure there was any significant addition, maybe making it will able?)
                Patron* (Unlimited stay at the resort, 1st in/out, will, ammo club add-on. I did it cause it doubled my account holdings)
                Commander* (I think this might have replaced Executive/Patron? Resort stays when you train. Includes ammo and guns at cost add-ons)
                Director (might be considered an add-on depending on your current level, adds Front Sight TV)
                President* (Added private or private group training based on level)
                Heritage* (Timeshare reservation and future private training when the resort is done?)

                * indicates the ones I've participated in... I don't plan to follow through with Heritage though. He gave the option to cancel and revert back when it's time to collect.

                Champion isn't' a membership or add-on. He called it Champion Club. It's a money grab for him... you get "recognition" and a coin and pin and whatever promo offers for buying a certain amount.
                First, that was a great rundown of what was offered over time. I can add a couple of tidbits to the above.

                Ambassador - this allowed you to provide dry fire (Front Sight endorsed) training at your facility. You could charge for this.

                Guardian - This was the first membership offered where this class of members would be the "guardians of FS" after Dr. P. retired. The place would be turned over to this class of membership. At the time it was the highest. This was also the first membership with special access to a TBD club on the famous outcrop overlooking the facility. Special place name engraved on the monument. VIP benefits and so forth.

                Either right after or right before Guardian, he offered the hotel endorsement. This add-on gave you free hotel rooms for life.

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                • AAShooter
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2010
                  • 7188

                  Original memberships were: Copper, Bronze, Silver and Gold I believe. One of the levels came with a 1 acre lot for a home.

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                  • AAShooter
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2010
                    • 7188

                    Original memberships were: Copper, Bronze, Silver and Gold I believe. One of the levels came with a 1 acre lot for a home.

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                    • DRM6000
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 5773

                      Originally posted by AAShooter
                      Original memberships were: Copper, Bronze, Silver and Gold I believe. One of the levels came with a 1 acre lot for a home.
                      The Gold was $99k! I know of one person who paid that.

                      The one that came with an acre was another membership level. Piazza never delivered so the members sued him.

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                      • AAShooter
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2010
                        • 7188

                        Originally posted by DRM6000
                        The Gold was $99k! I know of one person who paid that.

                        The one that came with an acre was another membership level. Piazza never delivered so the members sued him.
                        . . . never delivered yet!

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                        • hobowh
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 26

                          Thanks all, I just saw all kinds of stuff listed around. It gets a little confusing

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                          • Muzz
                            Member
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 202

                            Originally posted by DRM6000
                            The Gold was $99k! I know of one person who paid that.

                            The one that came with an acre was another membership level. Piazza never delivered so the members sued him.
                            That original highest level membership was the Platinum membership. It did come with a 1 acre home site. The original Gold membership had all the same benefits without the acre. When you look at the new membership offer pages and use the drop down menu to pick your membership level, Platinum is now 23rd down the list.

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                            • rodralig
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 4262

                              I know the Front Sight memberships that some existing members have would allow one to get "cheap" training (2DHG or 4DHG).

                              But does anyone know how to get the 4D Children's and Youth Achievement Camp ($2K a piece)...?

                              Thanks in advanced!

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                              • Jedi54
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1012

                                rodralig: the Diamond membership will do the trick.
                                Diamond is what most of us have plenty of so it shouldn't be difficult to get one.
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