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  • #31
    huck
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2008
    • 972

    Originally posted by kmca
    Raymond, too bad you missed the USPSA RO class last month at Richmond. It was very well attended. Now that I'm certified (once I get my packet in the mail) I can help out more
    Not to thread jack, but how often do you do RO classes at Richmond? When is the next one?
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    • #32
      Corbin Dallas
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • May 2006
      • 6265

      Originally posted by RaymondMillbrae
      Hey folks,

      I have a quick question.

      Lets say we are at a rifle match, the shooter had just finished his course of fire, and everyone is downrange scoring and patching-up the targets.

      Now, while everyone is downrange, the next shooter (unbeknownst to anyone) got anxious and went to the stating point. While there, he started getting ready and LOADED A MAGAZINE INTO HIS BLACK RIFLE.

      Of course, as soon as an RO saw that, he ran to the shooter and grabbed his weapon to ensure HE (the RO) had everything in control. The shooter got mad, and told the RO to never touch his weapon again. He told the RO that he should just "tell him" to unload and make safe...but not to touch his weapon.

      Is the fact that he was locked and loaded, with other shooters down range, and without an RO giving him these commands, a DQable offence?

      How would yall have handled it?

      Just curious.

      In Christ: Raymond

      I would have done the same, unloaded it myself and told the guy he was DQ'd for loading a firearm without the instruction of the RO/SO, AND people were downrange.

      If he had any problems with it, he could take up the issue with the MD.

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      • #33
        GunNutz
        Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 483

        Really scary stuff!

        I'm not RO, but I wouldn't want to shoot with that person. I coud see not DQing if he never swept anyone, and RO was feeling very generous. But to do something that stupid and then mouth off on top of it, as if the RO was wrong? GO HOME. Attitude + Stupidity = Accident.
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        • #34
          joelogic
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2008
          • 6593

          I would like to know the details or lock this thread. Gun and mag in hand? Mag in gun? Gun pointed at people?

          Hypothetical?

          These matters should really be dealt with directly or with the md.
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          • #35
            sargenv
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4620

            RO classes are NROI events.. The one last month was put together in anticipation of the Sectional match we had recently. There will likely not be another one for some time since the RO Instructor is in the process of moving to OR. If there is sufficient interest, there may be another one held next year before the Section match being held in Sacramento tentatively in mid April. Sometimes other USPSA clubs will hold a class and the best thing to do is to contact USPSA and ask them if there is a scheduled class in the area (western states) in the near future.

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            • #36
              mecam
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 4049

              Originally posted by slamfire
              There was just a rifle no mag. I agree this should never have been posted.

              Especially with the wrong info, Raymond! But mouthing off with the RO is unacceptable. You have a cooler head than you look slamfire.



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              • #37
                Chivas
                Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 334

                OMG, I cannot believe I am reading this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                If there was no mag in the gun why did the RO have to grab the competitors gun? Something is not right here. I have shot national matches and stood their with rifle mag in hand and rifle in other hand. No RO grabbed my gun.
                Last edited by Chivas; 08-05-2010, 10:59 AM.

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                • #38
                  uscbigdawg
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1869

                  Here's a link to the NROI scheduling page. There's a class in October in San Luis for folks that want to attend. It's two days. The first day is a full day of the rule book and explanation of the rules. The second is about a 1/2 to 3/4 day and you'll be on the road and home in time for dinner.

                  NROI Class Schedule

                  Here's a list of contacts to become an IDPA-SO: IDPA SO Instructors.

                  Rich
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                  • #39
                    Scotty
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1902

                    I DQ'ed bigdawg's buddy from the Grendel forum for loading up his pistol while everyone else was down range. This happened a few years back. I was the RO and was still dealing with the previous shooter when the guy decided he was going to load up. I don't remember if I put my hand on him to force him to face a safer direction, but I don't think the people downrange would see a problem in doing that.

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                    • #40
                      mecam
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 4049

                      Originally posted by Chivas
                      OMG, I cannot believe I am reading this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                      If there was no mag in the gun why did the RO have to grab the competitors gun? Something is not right here. I have shot national matches and stood their with rifle mag in hand and rifle in other hand. No RO grabbed my gun.
                      I think the kid was about to sweep people down range and RO had to jump quickly and keep it muzzle up. Loaded or not, muzzle must be pointed upwards until the RO says it's clear.


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                      • #42
                        kmca
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 2371

                        Originally posted by huck
                        Not to thread jack, but how often do you do RO classes at Richmond? When is the next one?
                        I just passed the certification test, so I'm waiting for my package to be an official RO. Sargenv covered when the next class will be (check the USPSA website).

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                        • #43
                          uscbigdawg
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1869

                          Originally posted by Scotty
                          I DQ'ed bigdawg's buddy from the Grendel forum for loading up his pistol while everyone else was down range. This happened a few years back. I was the RO and was still dealing with the previous shooter when the guy decided he was going to load up. I don't remember if I put my hand on him to force him to face a safer direction, but I don't think the people downrange would see a problem in doing that.
                          Scott - Let's be fair. That guy was hardly my buddy and just some a-hole I talked with occasionally over at the Grendel forums. That guy was off his rocker to say the least. I'm glad the douche doesn't shoot (that I've seen) with any clubs locally.

                          Rich
                          "Speed is a tactic!" - R.W.

                          "Pressure is what you feel when you don't know what you're doing." - Chuck Knox

                          "The callus on my finger is from my trigger, not the keyboard!" - Rob Leatham

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                          • #44
                            3GunFunShooter
                            In Memoriam
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 2408

                            LOL!! Be careful who you talk with Rich.
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                            • #45
                              uscbigdawg
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1869

                              I know right. That guy has been a burr in my rear and I never met him. Hell...I'm pretty sure I was deployed when talking to the knucklehead about getting into competition.

                              Oh well. Can't help everyone I guess. See you guys on the range.

                              Rich
                              "Speed is a tactic!" - R.W.

                              "Pressure is what you feel when you don't know what you're doing." - Chuck Knox

                              "The callus on my finger is from my trigger, not the keyboard!" - Rob Leatham

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