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  • SWalt
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 7966

    Any new range reports from those who have paid to take their "free life time classes"? Bustling with every range full to the brim? Classes at 50%? More, less? Its still too damn hot to tell, wait until November if FS is not shuttered?
    ^^^The above is just an opinion.

    NRA Patron Member
    CRPA 5 yr Member

    "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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    • beanz2
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 12024

      A member posted on FB that his shotgun class over the Labor day weekend was almost a private class and if I read it correctly there were <10 students in handgun. But it was a scorcher of a weekend.



      Sorry, it's a tiny picture but you can see the parking lot.
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      The wife will be pissed, but Jesus always forgives.

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      • -hanko
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2002
        • 14174

        Originally posted by Citizen_B
        And yet no one here has stated nor actually thinks IP will cease with his tactics. You keep shadow boxing an invisible enemy.

        Absolutely IP scammed some people or at best bait and switched, but you also keep forgetting that many members here could see the reality of the situation and still got the better end of the deal. It's like you and the other trolls keep repeating the same mantra to feel better about yourself or something. It's not actually contributing anything beneficial to the discussion.
        Thanks for the "opinion".
        True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

        Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

        Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

        A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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        • SWalt
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2012
          • 7966

          Originally posted by beanz2
          A member posted on FB that his shotgun class over the Labor day weekend was almost a private class and if I read it correctly there were <10 students in handgun. But it was a scorcher of a weekend.



          Sorry, it's a tiny picture but you can see the parking lot.
          The weather might have a wee bit to do with it but perhaps not all of it.
          Thanks.
          ^^^The above is just an opinion.

          NRA Patron Member
          CRPA 5 yr Member

          "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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          • hambam105
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7083

            Apparently some people around here haven't been punished enough.
            'Oh he's not such a bad guy'.

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            • -hanko
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2002
              • 14174

              Originally posted by hambam105
              Apparently some people around here haven't been punished enough.
              'Oh he's not such a bad guy'.
              Definitely not yet a murderer or rapist, just an ongoing lying SOB.

              It brings back the old saying about those who ignore history, tend to repeat it. Rampant stupidity and lots of Karens out there...

              Last edited by -hanko; 09-08-2022, 11:13 AM.
              True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

              Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

              Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

              A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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              • hambam105
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7083

                More than a few 1980s shooters were always scrimping pennies.

                I never knew that these guys had twenty or thirty thousand dollars squirreled away. Even if I did I thought
                they would never fall for snake oil pitches. They were definitely taken advantage off.

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                • Vinnie Boombatz
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 3036

                  I'm wondering if I should make one last trip there since I still have a private scheduled coming up in a few weeks, or just pack it in now and say "f-it"?

                  I really don't want to support Piazza, but also feel horrible for the instructors and wondering if it would be worth it to take one last private. I have a ton of FS$ left I can use toward all the ammo for my private (if they even have any ammo left).

                  I'm really torn because after this possible trip I'm done with the place and have already moved on to a couple places locally. Yes, they cost more than $100/day, but the training has been great, classes are much smaller in size and it's only about a 1.5 hour drive compared to an 8.5 hour drive. Still, wondering if I should jsut take advantage of this last private or just call it quits now.
                  Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 09-09-2022, 9:58 AM.
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                  • NorthBay Shooter
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 679

                    Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
                    I'm wondering if I should make one last trip there since I still have a private scheduled coming up in a few weeks, or just pack it in now and say "f-it"?

                    I really don't want to support Piazza, but also feel horrible for the instructors and wondering if it would be worth it to take one last private. I have a ton of FS$ left I can use toward all the ammo for my private (if they even have any ammo left).

                    I'm really torn because after this possible trip I'm done with the place and have already moved on to a couple places locally. Yes, they cost more than $100/day, but the training has been great, classes are much smaller in size and it's only about a 1.5 hour drive compared to an 8.5 hour drive. Still, wondering if I should jsut take advantage of this last private or just call it quits now.
                    In addition to what you have said, my other concern would be who is going to be your instructor. Private is worth if for the right person teaching you. However, if you get Bob the FNG, it would be a waste of time and money.

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                    • NorthBay Shooter
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 679

                      Has anyone else noticed the yes or no emails have stopped?

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                      • Vinnie Boombatz
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2020
                        • 3036

                        Originally posted by NorthBay Shooter
                        In addition to what you have said, my other concern would be who is going to be your instructor. Private is worth if for the right person teaching you. However, if you get Bob the FNG, it would be a waste of time and money.
                        This is very true. I did put in a request for an amazing instructor I had in the past, but there are no guarantees. I don't even know if that instructor is still there.
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                        • Vinnie Boombatz
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 3036

                          Originally posted by NorthBay Shooter
                          Has anyone else noticed the yes or no emails have stopped?
                          My buddy got over 40 (yes, 40!) emails of the last, "you must vote now" emails until he finally voted. Once he voted "no" the emails finally stopped. I received one email, voted (and voted "no"), and never received one after that.
                          Last edited by Vinnie Boombatz; 09-09-2022, 3:44 PM.
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                          • SWalt
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 7966

                            Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
                            My buddy got over 40 (yes, 40!) emails of the last, "you must vote now" until he finally voted. Once he voted "no" the emails finally stopped. I received one email, voted (and voted "no"), and never received one after that.
                            I just checked my FS folder. 9/1 was the last day and only got 1 e mail. Before that it looks like I got 4 e mails a day. Ohhh....I didn't vote but if I did it would have been no. I do not agree with charging fees for "free unlimited lifetime courses" I originally bought into back in 2009. $100/day $500/yr? IP is the one who screwed the entire pooch. Just something as little as if you bought your membership directly from FS you would not have to pay any fees for life. But if you bought a membership from a FS member you would have to pay FS a fee to become a member. Member gets money from selling the membership, FS gets new money rolling in. He is really good at blowing wind up peoples skirts but sucks as a business man.
                            ^^^The above is just an opinion.

                            NRA Patron Member
                            CRPA 5 yr Member

                            "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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                            • LV_G22
                              Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 164

                              Front Sight reorganization plan filed with Court yesterday.

                              Plan submitted for new company to take over FS and continue as a new firearms training facility. New owners. New memberships.

                              Plan includes info for existing FS members to get 2 year free basic membership to the new facility.



                              Filing 9/9/2022 # 337 See pages 62-72

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                              • LV_G22
                                Member
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 164

                                Info on PrairieFire

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