Bullets keep falling into cases..

[Gryff]

I see the same problem at a less frequent basis than you (I'm using Bear Creek bullets). I just set the bullet aside when I encounter the issue.

[ElDub1950]

Seems that if you mic'd the bullets and they're fine, next step would be to mic the sized brass, both before and after resizing them. I'm guess you won't see any difference meaning your sizing die and not adjusted or it's a bad one.

[DS94901]

Setting the decapping/resizing die by screwing in until it just touches the shell holder then backing off by 1/4-1/2 turn. Just enough to see a sliver of light between die and shell holder.
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This is the problem!!

Set your die to touch the shell holder. Then screw it down a little more.

It should kiss the shell holder as the press will tend to spring away as pressure is applied.

Failure to make full contact means that the case is not fully sized.

irh

Interesting. I'll have to try tonight with the die screwed down further. I've read multiple places no not let the die touch the shell holder but I'm going to try it for sure. Thanks

[DS94901]

I just thought of something though. I recall the reason to not touch the die to the SH is because the carbide is brittle. Anybody ever damage a carbide die doing this? I've heard of it but never in person.

[1HitaQuita]

Interesting. I'll have to try tonight with the die screwed down further. I've read multiple places no not let the die touch the shell holder but I'm going to try it for sure. Thanks

Really? Even in the Lee die instructions it says to screw in until die touches shell plate/holder, lower ram, then screw in an additional 1/4 turn.

[DS94901]

Really? Even in the Lee die instructions it says to screw in until die touches shell plate/holder, lower ram, then screw in an additional 1/4 turn.

I think this is their standard for the steel die sets. I'm willing to try setting my carbide die up this way to see if it eliminates my issue though. Not sure how brittle the carbide is but its not like I'll be slamming the SH into it as hard as possible.

[pdq_wizzard]

I think this is their standard for the steel die sets. I'm willing to try setting my carbide die up this way to see if it eliminates my issue though. Not sure how brittle the carbide is but its not like I'll be slamming the SH into it as hard as possible.

I do a cam over on my carbide dies, I have never broke one. Been reloading on and off for 30 + years

[DS94901]

I do a cam over on my carbide dies, I have never broke one. Been reloading on and off for 30 + years

That's good enough for me. I'll be trying it tonight.

[Mstnpete]

Sounds like Manufacturer is forgetting to crimp the bullets after seated!

Check if it's the same company or brand! And check if they came from Mexico or another country!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=901913

[DS94901]

Sounds like Manufacturer is forgetting to crimp the bullets after seated!

Check if it's the same company or brand! And check if they came from Mexico or another country!

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=901913

Well in this case I am the manufacturer. I'm not crimping because more people have recommended not crimping than crimping because of it not being necessary and to avoid over-crimping resulting in an explosion. As always I'm open to anybody's opinion on this. I'm new to reloading and value advice from those more experienced.

[bruce381]

set sizer to touch the shellplate it is 3 things.

Not adjusted all the way down, or boolits are too small in diameter or sizer out of size.

I had this problem and went to Dillion sizer problem was gone.

[Mstnpete]

Well in this case I am the manufacturer. I'm not crimping because more people have recommended not crimping than crimping because of it not being necessary and to avoid over-crimping resulting in an explosion. As always I'm open to anybody's opinion on this. I'm new to reloading and value advice from those more experienced.

Crimping is a must so you do not have bullets coming loose.
An explosion is normally caused by double powder charging and an old cracked or small hole in the casing.

[1HitaQuita]

Crimping is a must so you do not have bullets coming loose.
An explosion is normally caused by double powder charging and an old cracked or small hole in the casing.

I don't crimp pistol bullets either. Neck pressure is more than enough to hold the bullet in place. Never had any problems with bullets falling out.

[Mstnpete]

I don't crimp pistol bullets either. Neck pressure is more than enough to hold the bullet in place. Never had any problems with bullets falling out.

When you shoot competitively and reload since 1994 and shoot 400 rounds per weekend . I have a very slight crimp on mine.

[pdq_wizzard]

That's good enough for me. I'll be trying it tonight.

I wouldn't go much more than 1/4 of a turn after contact with the shell holder.