Powder Coating projectiles Methods/Tips discussion

[meaty-btz]

I think the tiny over was basically acting like a broiler. So I used the grate with foul and put it on the top shelf then put the tray with foil on bottom shelf (with PC bullits)

18 min @ 400 again
Viola


came out a little uneven, HF Red PC seems to be wicked dark. Maybe a touch less on the tumble and go for two coats.

tumble lube or spray? Tumble lube will be uneven and may require two coats. Spray on you should not touch (spray n back on same device) as you will knock the powder off if you do so. You do with tumble lubing but the general unevenness kind of makes you not notice.

Also your temp is a little high still HF Red turns dark when the heat is too high. Dial it back a little more, it should be lipstick red.

[bigred1]

inkman - I did this batch in a matter of 5 mins +- not including the total of 38 mins of baking. There was absolutely no mess involved. The most time consuming part was using my leather man to stand them all up. The whole PC thing for me is just something to break the monotony.

Meaty- thanks for the tip, I'll dial it back to 350 for the next test batch. Plus I'll probably use half the amount of PC and go to coats. I really wanted some lipstick red 45s.

I'm trying to get this down, my wife's keeps seeing this pic of a Tiffany blue glock and accessories including the rounds in the mag.

[3006mv]

i dry powder tumble and bake for 2 coats, my particular oven 15 min at 350F. if you make your own trays with a 1" edge all the way around you can stack and bake for 2x the volume. I did over 500 .224 the other day in a couple of hours, that is including casting them, just not sizing them.

[ArmedCMT]

here is my jig


Here are my beautiful beautiful bullets

Don't spend the money on another tumbler! This is a better solution and costs the same!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WAI-Fully-electric-complete-powder-coat-system-gun-cup-Craftsman-powder-sample-/300996732022

Thanks for link to PC gun and your jig has inspired me, Ill post pics when I finish mine.

Ive been having I real hard time finding bullets to reload for x39 so last night I bought two Lee molds, one 155gr & one 160gr, and im gunna try my hand at rolling my own from scratch.

I'm gunna skip the 2xtumble method and jump straight to the dust method but what do you guys think of this fellas system...

[sdkevin]

.. wow, I never thunk about this stuff.. crazy cool!

[stilly]

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I'm gunna skip the 2xtumble method and jump straight to the dust method but what do you guys think of this fellas system...

I do not have the time to watch his video but I HAVE to ask myself, WHY would ANYONE go to the trouble to coate their bullets to then put a gas check on them? Makes NO sense to me. I mean, THAT is a sign that all they want are colored bullets. But if the coating is anything decent then there is no need for a gas check... Sorry, don't need to hear arguments. The jury is DONE deciding this. I coat so that I do not have to buy plated or j-worded. I coat so that I can cast. I will NOT coat and then gas check... TOTAL waste of my time.

He is fired for having a pic like that. It gives the wrong idea behind coating and says he has no faith in the final product... Almost turns it into a hipster thing to do... Eww!

[stilly]

[meaty-btz]

inkman - I did this batch in a matter of 5 mins +- not including the total of 38 mins of baking. There was absolutely no mess involved. The most time consuming part was using my leather man to stand them all up. The whole PC thing for me is just something to break the monotony.

Meaty- thanks for the tip, I'll dial it back to 350 for the next test batch. Plus I'll probably use half the amount of PC and go to coats. I really wanted some lipstick red 45s.

I'm trying to get this down, my wife's keeps seeing this pic of a Tiffany blue glock and accessories including the rounds in the mag.

Try to keep the temps in the 400-350 range and cook for a shorter time. The cycle time on the HF PC is 10-15 minutes. 38 minutes is way too long, hence the dark red.

[meaty-btz]

it is like some nightmarish glowing boolits. Love it.

[stilly]

Take note and learn from some of my moves adn mistakes...

I have stocked up on a lot of bullets and I am back in the PC mode again BUT I have noticed some very bad things with my materials now as a result or using PC. I have also wrestled with the lack of ability to duplicate batch colors perfectly and with repeatable results. Consistency is just NOT cool with me so far. But my **** is breaking now left and right so maybe that is it.

PAY ATTENTION if you start doing this:

1. For this set of instructions I used mostly harbor freight powders. There is nothing wrong with them, they seem to work fine, but temps/contaminates and other stuff WILL affect your batches.

Observe:



The two on the left were HF RED, Double coat and Single Coat. Why they came out differently I do not know. I DO know that when I tumble things, the LONGER things stay in the darker the colors are. The pill on the far right was left in the tumbler on accident for 1.6+ days. It tumbled all that time. Along with about 150 others that look like it. I am now tumbling them again with a coating of yello, hopefully they will come out nice and maybe get to be close to a glossy coating. Right now they are not even slippery. They feel like charred lead if it could be charred... My friend tumbled his stuff and he gets great BRIGHT colors, but my colors are always dark it seems... He can tumble for about 20 minutes, my digital timer starts at 1 hour. I guess I need a new one to test it out with.



TWO COATS! perhaps a contaminate got in the mix somehow. My jars are all broken now, they are frosted and have dark hues in them, ANY powder that gets tossed in them with lead comes out DARK. Just makes NO ****ing sense...



So you can see, three different batches, the first one I double coated. The nice thing is that so far it looks like you can always go put another coat on these things. Then just push them through a sizer and you are GTG! BTW, These in the photos have ALL BEEN SIZED ALREADY to .451...



So I left my tumbler on and that damn thumler rolled for ALMOST 2 days. I am glad I went out to check it out. This is the crap that I saw. This WAS yellow powder but it looked gray/black on the bullets. Now it just looks jacked. They feel charred and rough, not slick like the others do.

I need a different timer for rolling PC bullets I think...



WATCH YOUR TEMP! This foil was basically ruined. I had the temp to slightly over 400 for about 15 minutes and you can see where the foil bubbled up under the lead. DAMN that sucked. I do not care to use a different sheet every time. AINT GONNA HAPPEN. So WATCH your temps. Keep your temps to around 375-390 MAX. Once your foil bubbles up on you, BEST to toss it out or else you will get the next photo.



Yeah, go ahead and keep using your foil because you are CHEAP like me and this is what will happen AFTER your foil bubbles up, foil sticks to all things and you tear it off as you pull the bullets from the plate to get resized...

My containers are like frosted beach glass. I just wish I knew how to tumble and get lighter colors from it... I will stop in to S&F tomorrow and get some more containers. They cost me 1.49 or 2.49 each but I aint liking that I gotta buy a new one every 2000 bullets... Hmmm, maybe liners will do nicely.

Enjoy...