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  • #16
    meaty-btz
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 8980

    Originally posted by hermosabeach
    One of the cool things on powder coating is that you can reuse the overspray.

    It is a dust until baked and melted onto the product.

    Any overspray can be vacuumed up or reused I clean.



    After seeing the wear tests on bimetallic rounds wearing out an AR twice as fast as copper I was worried that this would do the same.

    Does anyone have an MSDS on cured powder coat?

    This looks like a win for the .44 mag lever guns.
    The MSDS will vary with the brand and even color. I can generalize you have many types:
    epoxy
    polyester
    hybrid (poly-epoxy)
    acrylic
    polyurethane

    Of them most of us will recommend polyester over the others, straight epoxy is the cheapest.

    Acrylic works well too and is used in it's liquid paint form and has bonding properties similar to the other types. I don't know of anyone using a polyurethane so no commentary on that variant. Harbor Freight Powders are Epoxy, fusion bonded epoxy. Durability is sufficient but it is not "solvent resistant" as you would find with a proper linked polyester coating.
    ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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    • #17
      Germz
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Apr 2013
      • 4691

      Originally posted by thenodnarb
      Don't spend the money on another tumbler! This is a better solution and costs the same!


      That is the WAI powder coat system(sears one is discontinued). just buy powder from Harbor freight(red or black) and you are set to powder coat(plus a toaster oven).
      Heck, I bet you could go to a scrap yard and buy an actual gas oven for cheap that can serve as your outdoor, dedicated casting(via top burners) and powder coating oven. And you will only have to spray once.
      If space is your concern, the self contained sprayer is probably more compact when stored than the tumbler. And you can save yourself the careful picking up of bullets and balancing them gingerly on a cookie sheet and slowly transferring them to the toaster oven, TWICE for the tumble coat method.
      just bought this and found a pretty big toaster oven for $10 on Pendletonyardsales.com I can't wait to try it out!
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      • #18
        anyracoon
        Veteran Member
        • May 2006
        • 3705

        Finally had to go out and buy a new cheap toaster oven. Been looking for weeks with no luck at garage sales & Goodwill. Spent more money on gas and time!

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        • #19
          stilly
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2009
          • 10685

          Originally posted by anyracoon
          Finally had to go out and buy a new cheap toaster oven. Been looking for weeks with no luck at garage sales & Goodwill. Spent more money on gas and time!
          Craigslist is your friend, so is fleabay and walmart.
          7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

          Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



          And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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          • #20
            Germz
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2013
            • 4691

            www.prismaticpowders.com

            found this website. powder coating powders are half the price here as powderbythepound

            bigger selection too. now to find a nice metallic turquoise blue/green
            Last edited by Germz; 12-19-2013, 12:35 PM.
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            • #21
              stilly
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2009
              • 10685

              Originally posted by Germz
              http://www.prismaticpowders.com

              found this website. powder coating powders are half the price here as powderbythepound

              bigger selection too. now to find a nice metallic turquoise blue/green

              You need to fix yer link. Oh wait...

              I fixed it for yas.

              Good job in finding this. Too bad they only sell by the LB though. My local powder outfitter is cheaper, but there is a better selection here.

              BTW, 1 LB is enough to coat prolly 50k + bullets.
              7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

              Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



              And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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              • #22
                bigred1
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 577



                400 for 15 is just a tad hot in my new little toaster over.

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                • #23
                  Germz
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 4691

                  Oh by the way I have that WAI powder coating gun. I am willing to sell it for $60. It works great but I find it more fun to tumble powder coat. only used one time!
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                  • #24
                    meaty-btz
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 8980

                    Originally posted by bigred1


                    400 for 15 is just a tad hot in my new little toaster over.
                    The problem with a lot of the toaster ovens is that their "temp" vs "actual temp" or "temp range" can be pretty damned high. Mine tends towards the cooler side so that helps.

                    But I've had meltdowns as well.

                    In your case you might want to get some kind of quality thermocouple or other temp reading system so you can find the right setting.
                    ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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                    • #25
                      bigred1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 577

                      I tumble these, everything went pretty smoothly.
                      225 for 10 to get the lube off.
                      let cool and then gave a little acetone wash.
                      allowed to fully dry.
                      tossed a tiny bit of red PC in an old salsa jar, added bullets and then set the whole container into my tumbler.
                      tumbled for 20 mins

                      set them all neatly on the foil tray, set the little toaster to 400 for 20. checked at 15 and noticed that I had a pile of molten lead.

                      The PC was actually fully cure and most look like deflated balloons once the lead poured out.

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                      • #26
                        stilly
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10685

                        Originally posted by bigred1


                        400 for 15 is just a tad hot in my new little toaster over.
                        Some of those look chocolately delicious!
                        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                        Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                        And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                        • #27
                          3006mv
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 1979

                          i noticed that with foil i will get melted .224 boolits, but on the grating which allows air to flow? i do not get melted boolits at the same temp and duration
                          "when I hear 'meat is murder' (sic) I think murder is delicious" - Stephen Colbert interview with Morrisey 09.10.12

                          I plead the 2nd.

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                          • #28
                            anyracoon
                            Veteran Member
                            • May 2006
                            • 3705

                            I use 12 gauge sheet metal cut to same size as toaster oven pan, covered with non-stick tin foil.

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                            • #29
                              bigred1
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 577

                              I think the tiny over was basically acting like a broiler. So I used the grate with foul and put it on the top shelf then put the tray with foil on bottom shelf (with PC bullits)

                              18 min @ 400 again
                              Viola


                              came out a little uneven, HF Red PC seems to be wicked dark. Maybe a touch less on the tumble and go for two coats.

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                              • #30
                                Inkman
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 1116

                                I tumble lubed cast boolits for a while before buying a Star and was happy as i was starting out and it was cheap. No offense but so far, all the pics of powder coating looks like a major boatload of work and messy as all get out.

                                Does anybody have it down to an art yet where you can do thousands fairly quickly and clean?

                                Al
                                Various 1911s.
                                Some revolvers.
                                Some rifles.
                                Back to owning some of those "polymer" guns.

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