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  • #46
    csburtch
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 366

    I use red dot also. 4.0 w/124gn and 3.0 w/147
    Anyone have a golden recepie for zip w/147's?

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    • #47
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15531

      Originally posted by chowtime
      I've used 231, Titegroup, Power pistol, N320 and WST for both 9mm and .40. Out of those I prefer the WST.
      Where did you get your load data for 9mm and WST just out of curiosity?
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      • #48
        Pacilander
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 111

        I use bullseye and titegroup for 9mm and so much more. I prefer bullseye because it has a lot more forgiveness with the powder charge. I find that with tigtegroup if I am off by +-0.05gn it will completely change the load, where as with bullseye I have +- of 0.10 gn I don't see that much of a difference.

        My advice is try them out, and work your loads up and see how you do.

        What works for me is 4.1gn titegroup 115 plated rn and 4.5gn bullseye 115gn plated rn.

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        • #49
          usmchugheskl
          Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 150

          I'm using 115gr copper plated x-treme bullets, I have a lee 2nd edition manual and it dosent have data for titegroup, I know I can google this but thought I'd ask. Copper plated vs jacketed, what's better?

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          • #50
            Bill Steele
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 5028

            Originally posted by usmchugheskl
            I'm using 115gr copper plated x-treme bullets, I have a lee 2nd edition manual and it dosent have data for titegroup, I know I can google this but thought I'd ask. Copper plated vs jacketed, what's better?
            I prefer jacketed as I find the brands I shoot more consistent than plated. That also goes for the lead brands I buy. But millions of guys shoots tons of plated and love them. Personal preference really.
            When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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            • #51
              Pacilander
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 111

              Originally posted by usmchugheskl
              I'm using 115gr copper plated x-treme bullets, I have a lee 2nd edition manual and it dosent have data for titegroup, I know I can google this but thought I'd ask. Copper plated vs jacketed, what's better?
              Jacketed bullets can be pushed a little faster because of the jacket. Plated bullets shouldn't be pushed past 1100-1200fps at that point you can shave off the copper plating and expose the lead. When using plated bullets you should go off data for lead bullets.

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              • #52
                HighLander51
                Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 5144

                I have run TiteGroup ever since it came out. Currently 125 gr Bear Creek on top of 4.0 grs at 1.100" OAL, and 115 Montana Gold JHPs on top of 4.5 grs at 1.150" OAL. Goes about 1,180 fps out of a G17.

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                • #53
                  Bill Steele
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5028

                  Originally posted by Pacilander
                  Jacketed bullets can be pushed a little faster because of the jacket. Plated bullets shouldn't be pushed past 1100-1200fps at that point you can shave off the copper plating and expose the lead. When using plated bullets you should go off data for lead bullets.
                  Not sure this applies to the xtreme and the Berry's models with heavier plating. Gold Dots are plated and the speed limit is more about over expansion than shredding copper, so you can buy plated that can be pushed as hard as the caliber will do.

                  Best to contact the manufacter though, if in doubt (or you see shards of copper at your feet ).
                  When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                  • #54
                    korny351
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 105

                    From the tone of your original post I gather you are new to reloading. Use caution with Titegroup and other fast powders. Charge weights are small (easy to double charge w/o careful inspection) and the window between min. and max. charge is usually .5 gr. or less. Small increases near max can cause chamber pressures to skyrocket. Check your charge often.

                    While the Lee Pro AutoDisk is a good powder measure it needs to be seasoned properly before it will throw consistent charges. Season it with powdered graphite or run a bunch of powder through it. We're talking at least a 1/2 pound, preferably, a full pound. The graphite from the powder will coat everything and make it much more consistent. Also consider adding a powder baffle to the reservoir. Google "Uncle Nick's Powder Baffle Templates". Don't try using the adjustable charge bar for small charges less than 5.0 gr. It just won't work with any accuracy on small charges without modification.

                    I like to suggest that new reloaders start with slower powders, such as W231 or HS-6. Double charges are much more obvious and they are more forgiving as you approach max loads. Either way, take your time, be diligent and have fun.

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                    • #55
                      usmchugheskl
                      Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 150

                      First time reloading 9mm, thanks for all the info
                      Last edited by usmchugheskl; 03-31-2013, 8:32 PM. Reason: To edit

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                      • #56
                        usmchugheskl
                        Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 150

                        Thanks for the info, iv been relaxing for 5 years now but .223 and .308 only, alittle .45acp but just starting 9mm so picking everyone's brains to get info from people who actually reload

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                        • #57
                          area51
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 715

                          Solo1000 and 231
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                          • #58
                            ireload
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 2589

                            Originally posted by usmchugheskl
                            I'm using 115gr copper plated x-treme bullets, I have a lee 2nd edition manual and it dosent have data for titegroup, I know I can google this but thought I'd ask. Copper plated vs jacketed, what's better?


                            It depends on which type your pistol like. If you are getting decent groups and your pistol cycles with no issue then stick with plated. My Beretta is very accurate with Honardy XTPs but my practice is Berry's or Rainer plated which I get decent accuracy. Just bear in mind that you'll get a tad more velocity with plated since it's softer than jacketed. Plus when you apply a crimp, just do a light one. Too heavy would. "cut" onto the plating. I've loaded plated bullets way past their recommended max velocity with no ill effect from both brands.

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                            • #59
                              dundadun
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 38

                              Powder suggestions for a beginner wanting to start reloading 9mm and .38 special/.357? Is there a powder that can do all of them?

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                              • #60
                                Bill Steele
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 5028

                                Originally posted by dundadun
                                Powder suggestions for a beginner wanting to start reloading 9mm and .38 special/.357? Is there a powder that can do all of them?
                                Sure, quite a few.

                                Unique and Power Pistol are two that come to mind, very flexible in those calibers.
                                When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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