Need help with 450 Bushmaster loads.

[450BOOMER]

Hey Guys,..My buddies son just shot what may be the worlds record mountain lion in WY., (green field measurement is 18 so far) yesterday and they just got home this morning. I'm about to get the first pictures by email and you guys will be the first to publicly view them. Question, how do I get those pic off my email onto here?

Safety First..t

Hi Wildcatter,

Open a free photobucket.com account; save the pictures to your computer and upload them to your Photobucket account. Open a picture in Photobucket then right click on the picture, select properties, and copy the address of the picture (URL) (http://XXXXXXXXXXXX. Open a new message and select the yellow box (insert image) in the message format screen (toolbar at the top of the screen), then paste the URL in the highlighted http:// area. I believe there is a limit of 5 images per post.

Boomer

[Slash2]

I'm using one of these Pro Mag slip-on's with my collapseable stock and it helps.


However, I'm thinking of going to an A2 stock and trying one of these from Brownell's:

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/productdetail.aspx?p=8745

I got some Round nose and Hornady HAP bullets to work up some fast movers for the 450b but haven't got around to it yet; It should be fun.

Maybe I'll just stay tuned... there was some of that done earlier and I believe that's Wildcatter's specialty.

Have fun,

Boomer

I'm using an ACE LTD stock, they have two sizes of recoil pad, .5" and 1".

http://riflestocks.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75_77&products_id=190

[Wildcatter]

Way to go Boomer!!! I hope this works..

The Son of my Buddy is the balding gentleman, he is about 6'2" and about 275 lbs..

The green measurement on the cat is 18”. It will shrink and won’t be officially measured for something like four months. The current record is 16 4/16 (Yes I know, it’s how B&C does it).

Like I said they shot this yesterday. After hunting it for three seasons the success was tremendous but at a great cost. Two seasons ago it attacked him and nearly got took off his head, but save for his faithful dog, he would not be here, but the dog gave his life saving the master... God Bless great Dogs..

Safety First..t

[Wildcatter]

Ok, I'm trying to post the pics again..t

http://iavbbs.com/imap/src/download.php?passed_id=854&mailbox=Trash&ent_id=2&absolute_dl=true

http://iavbbs.com/imap/src/download.php?passed_id=854&mailbox=Trash&ent_id=3&absolute_dl=true

[Wildcatter]

Ok, so I'm not the smartest spark plug in the set.. can someone please post these for me, so we don't have to go to a url..t

[jagermaster]

Wildcatter

Send me an email with the pictures and I will post them for you.
pgibson @ comcast.net

Everyone else

I finally got around to taking some pictures of my last range session. This weekend I hope to get some range
time in with my 10 loads of 38gr H110 275gr barns bullets.

5 shot groups at 100yds 37gr H110 3/4 in group

[chestpubes2ballfro]

ok guys just joined the forum. i have been reading this for a while. i just got my reloading stuff sent up here to alaska. i am in the airforce and have lots of ar experience. my 450 is the heat. i just got my first 100 pieces of empty brass from cheaper than dirt. they have some let if you guys need any btw. ok i am taking my thumper for caribou, black bear, and moose this year. i will be using the 270 barnes. ok the pic above this post shows 27grns h110 the caption above says 37grns. so which is it? i would like to use this load thanks guys for all your work. best forum i have ever seen. also i just bought a cannelour tool. anybody used one of these yet to help the bullet from moving in the case? i read about a lot of problems about this. i know with the barned i wont be using it. maybe with the sst . i dont think the sst has a grove. i bet the tool might work wonders ill see in time what it does with accuracy

[GunNut]

plinkers.

I had an Enidine buffer for the fixed stock. It doesn't really do anything. In fact, mine broke. The bolt shroud would compress the piston before the buffer would start moving rearward. Wished someone would make a good recoil pad with that decelarator compound.

I understand your point on the pressure. Regarding the recoil -- I went thru the same process with the 45-70 -- how much is enough. This is a light rifle and recoil will always be heavy with the heavier bullets. How about reversing course -- I want a light recoiling 100 yard plinking load using a 200 or 230 gr 45 acp bullet. Anyone go there yet?

I think Slash worked this one up. 45grs of Lil gun & 230 gr. FMJ. about 2550fps. I've been shooting it for awhile. Works like a champ! I still use my wifes oven mitt for a recoil pad. ""No babe.....haven't seen it"" LOL!

[jagermaster]

ok guys just joined the forum. i have been reading this for a while. i just got my reloading stuff sent up here to alaska. i am in the airforce and have lots of ar experience. my 450 is the heat. i just got my first 100 pieces of empty brass from cheaper than dirt. they have some let if you guys need any btw. ok i am taking my thumper for caribou, black bear, and moose this year. i will be using the 270 barnes. ok the pic above this post shows 27grns h110 the caption above says 37grns. so which is it? i would like to use this load thanks guys for all your work. best forum i have ever seen. also i just bought a cannelour tool. anybody used one of these yet to help the bullet from moving in the case? i read about a lot of problems about this. i know with the barned i wont be using it. maybe with the sst . i dont think the sst has a grove. i bet the tool might work wonders ill see in time what it does with accuracy

It Is 37gr H110.
The Barns is 275gr .451 bullet for the 460 S&W
It was a misprint i wrote on the target at the range.
As always this is the data I produced reload at your own risk.

[Siringo]

I think Slash worked this one up. 45grs of Lil gun & 230 gr. FMJ. about 2550fps. I've been shooting it for awhile. Works like a champ! I still use my wifes oven mitt for a recoil pad. ""No babe.....haven't seen it"" LOL!

I am looking for a wimp load. Maybe 1200 to 1500 fps. Just for short range plinking. Needs to run in the 35K psi range. I have a good handle on the heavy stuff.

[jagermaster]

[chestpubes2ballfro]

velocity?

jager have you put these barnes loads over the chrono? if not ill do it when i can get to the range. i think ill start a good bit lower and work my way up slowly. thanks for posting and helping this round out. i think its a great concept. there is no ammo on the shelf for this anywhere in alaska as guides and hunters are snapping these up and putting good bullets in them for bear guns. its a good option to a 45-70. the barnes bullets make a 275grn a decent bear load. i have no fear of that bullet punching deep and doing damage. has anybody used a cannelure tool on the sst? i was wondering. jager also your crimp from the photos seems really deep. must it be crimped like that to prevent the bullet moving in the case under fire?

[chestpubes2ballfro]

bad kitty bad. thats a big boy. what state?

[Slash2]

I finally got around to taking some pictures of my last range session. This weekend I hope to get some range
time in with my 10 loads of 38gr H110 275gr barns bullets.

5 shot groups at 100yds 37gr H110 3/4 in group

Impressive group Jager! I received my 275gr'ers the other day. I'm going to try out your load, if my groups aren't tight I'll know it's me.

Btw, for the 200gr Barnes I've settled on 42.8grs of Lil gun. 1.25" group of 4 at 100yrds. 2455fps.

[Siringo]

jager have you put these barnes loads over the chrono? if not ill do it when i can get to the range. i think ill start a good bit lower and work my way up slowly. thanks for posting and helping this round out. i think its a great concept. there is no ammo on the shelf for this anywhere in alaska as guides and hunters are snapping these up and putting good bullets in them for bear guns. its a good option to a 45-70. the barnes bullets make a 275grn a decent bear load. i have no fear of that bullet punching deep and doing damage. has anybody used a cannelure tool on the sst? i was wondering. jager also your crimp from the photos seems really deep. must it be crimped like that to prevent the bullet moving in the case under fire?

My load with that bullet -- I use Lil'gun, 34.5 Grains. Velocity is 2,142 fps (16" barrel). Groups not a tight as Jagermaster's, but 1 1/2 inches. See my post on page 54.