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IDK, I have shot many many thousands of reloads over the years without there ever being an issue and I don't reload myself, but I had a high confidence in the people who loaded them.Only slaves don't need guns
We stand for the Anthem, we kneel for the crossOriginally posted by epilepticninjaAmericans vs. Democrats
We already have the only reasonable Gun Control we need, It's called the Second Amendment and it's the government it controls.
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Commercially manufactured guns are required to be serialized and tracked at all points of sale.
Ammunition is not.
That's where the distinction is.
Self-made guns are simply home-made versions of an item that IS required to be serialized and tracked at each point of sale which is why they care about who and how they are being "self" manufactured.
Since commercial ammo is not serialized or tracked at each point of sale, there is less cause for concern when it is self manufactured.Randall Rausch
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Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.Comment
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My comment was not about "manufacturing ammunition for use by others". The suggestion was made that ATF would crack down simply on using a press someone else owned, to make your own ammo. My friend coming over to use my press to load some rounds he doesn't have dies for, is not going to be an issue. It's entirely different to the "renting a CNC to make a firearm" that ATF had a problem with, which they roped into even "using a friend's jig" which personally I think is an overreach, as it was the people trying to make a business of manufacturing firearms without "manufacturing themselves" that ruined it.Comment
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Commercially manufactured guns are required to be serialized and tracked at all points of sale.
Ammunition is not.
That's where the distinction is.
Self-made guns are simply home-made versions of an item that IS required to be serialized and tracked at each point of sale which is why they care about who and how they are being "self" manufactured.
Since commercial ammo is not serialized or tracked at each point of sale, there is less cause for concern when it is self manufactured.Comment
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Voice typing will butcher whatever I was trying to sayComment
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Whos insurance pays if there is a squib or double load?sigpic
Originally posted by dantoddWe will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.Originally posted by bwieseThey don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.Originally posted by louisianagirlOur fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.Comment
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^^^ THAT'S SOME FUNNY CH!T RIGHT THERE ^^^
Hey Jack; Call the ATF back and ask them if you should buy a gun for self defense?
You're more than likely to get the same answer.
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Are we talking about the Basketball ? So
(1) DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL.
(2) Remember the NIKE advertisement: JUST DO ITLast edited by newbie1234; 08-28-2022, 8:02 PM.Comment
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Unfortunately they didn't have the balls to take it to court, we would have ended up with ar lowers not being defined as firearms if they hadComment
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Actually I don't have to make that phone call. Where I live acquiring a weapon for self-defense and then becoming and remaining proficient in its use would be a colossal waste of my time and money. I might have a different idea if I lived on the South Side of Chicago but I don't.
Since you raised the issue, the way I think about stuff like this is in terms of what's likely, not what's possible. We're all susceptible to being killed in an auto accident yet most of us still use cars to get around because the likelihood of being killed in a car accident is acceptably low. Along the same lines, it's possible I could be killed by a burglar or a mass shooter but the likelihood is even lower than death by auto.
Going back to the ATF and "manufacturing" ammunition, some may find the consequences of getting caught acceptably low. I don't have to accept that risk to help someone out (in this case a family member). He can easily afford the higher cost of factory ammo given how much (really how little) he shoots the firearm in question.Last edited by JackEllis; 08-29-2022, 10:07 AM.Comment
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