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  • #46
    kcstott
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 11796

    I have to agree. the only thing a .308 SBD has made for me is torn rims and stuck cases. and I mean in the die not the rifle. never needed a small base die for .223/5.56 or .308 in gas or bolt gun.

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    • #47
      kcheung2
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 4387

      Me 3, I use regular RCBS full length dies for my M&P 10 without issue. Even random range brass that I later cycled through a PTR91 once or twice before will still work in the M&P.
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      • #48
        Erik(310)
        Member
        • Feb 2018
        • 220

        Originally posted by kcheung2
        Me 3, I use regular RCBS full length dies for my M&P 10 without issue. Even random range brass that I later cycled through a PTR91 once or twice before will still work in the M&P.
        Which rcbs do you have?

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        • #49
          J-cat
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2005
          • 6626

          Originally posted by kcstott
          I have to agree. the only thing a .308 SBD has made for me is torn rims and stuck cases. and I mean in the die not the rifle. never needed a small base die for .223/5.56 or .308 in gas or bolt gun.
          I have found it easier to size machinegun brass in two steps: first through a Redding body die, then through a small base die. The body die does not move a lot of brass but enough to make the small base die work less. No stuck cases or torn rims here.

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          • #50
            17+1
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 2847

            Originally posted by Erik(310)
            Which rcbs do you have?

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            Probably the exact same ones I have for my M1A and AR10. The 308 2 die set that you can buy on midway, Amazon, you know the ones that every gun shop carries?

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            • #52
              kcheung2
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              • Aug 2012
              • 4387

              RCBS #15501. Yeah it's the pretty common one.

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              • #53
                Sailormilan2
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2006
                • 3477

                Originally posted by J-cat
                I have found it easier to size machinegun brass in two steps: first through a Redding body die, then through a small base die. The body die does not move a lot of brass but enough to make the small base die work less. No stuck cases or torn rims here.
                I do basically the same thing. However, I use standard RCBS dies for the first sizing, then use a Dillon size/trim die for the second as it trims the cases.
                Last edited by Sailormilan2; 09-03-2018, 6:53 AM.

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                • #54
                  kcstott
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by J-cat
                  I have found it easier to size machinegun brass in two steps: first through a Redding body die, then through a small base die. The body die does not move a lot of brass but enough to make the small base die work less. No stuck cases or torn rims here.
                  Some of us don't use recycled garbage either. None of my rifles will ever see Machine gun brass.
                  Last edited by kcstott; 09-03-2018, 9:54 AM.

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                  • #55
                    J-cat
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2005
                    • 6626

                    So you stuck a non machinegun fired case in a small base die and tore off the rim? Was this in a brand new die? Did you use Imperial?

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                    • #56
                      17+1
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2847

                      Now the story is starting to make sense...small base dies required because you’re using machine gun brass? I’ve never loaded machine gun brass.

                      IMO, it’s eaier just to make friends with the old guys at the range that have a ton of once fired 7.62 (from their M1A) in their attic. They want to get rid of the brass, and my wife can make the hell out of homemade apple pies...everyone wins.

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                      • #57
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        Originally posted by J-cat
                        So you stuck a non machinegun fired case in a small base die and tore off the rim? Was this in a brand new die? Did you use Imperial?
                        yep. and nope I used hornady unique, then tried lanolin then i started measuring. and figured out that the die is just too damn tight. It's sits in the case and I'm glad i didn't pay for it. Forster die too. never had an issue before.

                        But heres the deal. I don't need it. my rifles work just fine with Peterson, Lapua, and Hornady brass. i don't and won't use range trash in anything other than my .223, 9mm, and 45 ACP.

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                        • #58
                          kcstott
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          there's a bribe I like....

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                          • #59
                            Erik(310)
                            Member
                            • Feb 2018
                            • 220

                            So you really shouldn't buy a mixed bag [1000pcs] of fired once 308 brass?

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                            • #60
                              ar15barrels
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57163

                              Originally posted by Erik(310)
                              So you really shouldn't buy a mixed bag [1000pcs] of fired once 308 brass?
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