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  • Erik(310)
    Member
    • Feb 2018
    • 220

    .308 range ammo/reloading

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    Last edited by Erik(310); 09-10-2018, 2:05 AM.
  • #2
    Ironfether
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 52

    Here are representative costs for the necessary supplies required to make 250 rounds of FMJ Ammo.

    150gr FMJ Bullet - $62 (.25 cents per round)
    Powder - $45 ($30 lbs x 42grains)
    Primers - $7.50 ($30 per K)
    Brass - $30 ($120 per K)

    Total cost of supplies - $144.50

    You can probably beat these costs by shopping around, but they’ll get you close. In addition, you will need to invest in equipment. If you only looking at 250 rounds over the course of a few months, just buy it. If you shoot 250 rounds every weekend, you would benefit from loading.

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    • #3
      JackEllis
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 2731

      Most of us who reload don't necessarily do it to save money. You're going to spend a few hundred bucks for a basic reloading setup and you'll have to amortize that cost over the amount of shooting you plan on doing.

      I reload .223 and here's how the math would work for me. It costs between 17 (plinking) and 25 cents (lead-free varmint) per round to reload, depending on what deals I can find on components. I use range brass so cases cost me nothing other than my time. It costs between 30 and 50 cents per round for bulk ammo if I buy mail order. My breakeven point is somewhere in the range of 3500-4,000 rounds, depending on the mix of plinking and varmint ammo.

      Another mitigating factor in my case is the location of an in-state ammunition dealer. The nearest one is an hour and a half away

      I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't. your cost-value tradeoff might be different than mine is, and you might shoot more or less than I do.

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      • #4
        Erik(310)
        Member
        • Feb 2018
        • 220

        Thank you

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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57128

          Originally posted by Ironfether
          Here are representative costs for the necessary supplies required to make 250 rounds of FMJ Ammo.

          150gr FMJ Bullet - $62 (.25 cents per round)
          Powder - $45 ($30 lbs x 42grains)
          Primers - $7.50 ($30 per K)
          Brass - $30 ($120 per K)

          Total cost of supplies - $144.50
          That's your cost for new ammo.

          His costs go down $30 (using your numbers) to $114.50 when he RELOADS the cases and does not need to buy them again.
          Randall Rausch

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          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
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          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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          • #6
            Erik(310)
            Member
            • Feb 2018
            • 220

            Wow that's some good info. I live in LA so there's really no wide open land that some are fortunate enough to shoot on so im kiiiind of stuck with the indoor ranges. I guess i was thinking that 25 yards shooting through paper would really cost nothing or at least a bit cheaper than 120$ for 250 rounds.
            Originally posted by JackEllis
            Most of us who reload don't necessarily do it to save money. You're going to spend a few hundred bucks for a basic reloading setup and you'll have to amortize that cost over the amount of shooting you plan on doing.

            I reload .223 and here's how the math would work for me. It costs between 17 (plinking) and 25 cents (lead-free varmint) per round to reload, depending on what deals I can find on components. I use range brass so cases cost me nothing other than my time. It costs between 30 and 50 cents per round for bulk ammo if I buy mail order. My breakeven point is somewhere in the range of 3500-4,000 rounds, depending on the mix of plinking and varmint ammo.

            Another mitigating factor in my case is the location of an in-state ammunition dealer. The nearest one is an hour and a half away

            I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't. your cost-value tradeoff might be different than mine is, and you might shoot more or less than I do.
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            • #7
              lordmorgul
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Jul 2016
              • 1203

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57128

                Originally posted by Erik(310)
                im kiiiind of stuck with the indoor ranges too lazy to drive to outdoor ranges with long distance.
                I guess i was thinking that 25 yards shooting through paper would really cost nothing or at least a bit cheaper than 120$ for 250 rounds.
                For inexpensive 25yd target shooting, you should be using a 22LR.

                308 is a complete waste at 25yds.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #9
                  Erik(310)
                  Member
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 220

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  For inexpensive 25yd target shooting, you should be using a 22LR.

                  308 is a complete waste at 25yds.
                  No, not really. I just got it so i wanna get feel for the rifle and waste some rounds (i have to get it out of my system). I love the kick and the whole experience of shooting the 308. I really have to find time and a place to shoot outdoors. I work so many dam* hours kind of hard. I get what you mean though. I didnt buy a smaller rifle because i dont want to buy a rifle twice so i got this one. I can get the ammo but i dont want to give money away if i dont have to. I guess i was looking for inexpensive round alternatives. I figure if i dig deep enough ill find one.

                  All the long distance shooting will come in time

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                  • #10
                    Sal0327
                    Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 316

                    When I started reloading (7yrs ago) I was just trying to save money on ammo. Your not going to save nothing, your actually going to be spending more.

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                    • #11
                      AGGRO
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 2793

                      You'll save money on the same number of rounds. If you shoot more than of course you'll need more components. I save a lot over factory with .300 win mag but the best thing is avoiding the ammo card debacle.

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                      • #12
                        JackEllis
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 2731

                        Originally posted by Erik(310)
                        No, not really. I just got it so i wanna get feel for the rifle and waste some rounds (i have to get it out of my system). I love the kick and the whole experience of shooting the 308. I really have to find time and a place to shoot outdoors. I work so many dam* hours kind of hard. I get what you mean though. I didnt buy a smaller rifle because i dont want to buy a rifle twice so i got this one. I can get the ammo but i dont want to give money away if i dont have to. I guess i was looking for inexpensive round alternatives. I figure if i dig deep enough ill find one.

                        All the long distance shooting will come in time

                        Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
                        I started with a .30-06. The cheapest practice ammo I could find cost 60 cents a pop and 20 rounds is about all my shoulder can take so I didn't shoot nearly enough to get proficient with the rifle. Then I got myself a .22 (I now have three of them). 500 rounds of .22lr cost be about $22 bucks, so for the cost of two boxes of .30-06 ammo I get a lot more practice and it has made a difference in my marksmanship.

                        If you're limited to a 25 or 50 yard range, get yourself a .22. Good ones can be had for a reasonable price.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57128

                          Originally posted by Erik(310)
                          I guess i was looking for inexpensive round alternatives. I figure if i dig deep enough ill find one.
                          If you just want to feel recoil, buy the cheapest crappiest steel cased ammo.
                          It will make noise and create recoil and wear your barrel.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                          • #14
                            kcheung2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 4387

                            If you're antsy to shoot your gun (I don't blame you), then why bother with the boresighter on your other thread? Shoot it at paper at 5 yds, adjust, shoot it at 10 yards, adjust, repeat at 25yds...

                            As for ranges in LA, have you considered Angeles? You can stretch out to 600 yds there.

                            Finally, one thing about reloading is that it changes your perspective on numbers. A non-reloader will think about buying 100, 250 rounds at a time. A reloader will buy 1000 projectiles at a time, or 32 lbs of powder & add a few thousand primers to max out their hazmat costs. It's basically going from convenience store quantities to Costco quantities.
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                            • #15
                              hambam105
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7083

                              The solution here is a Mosin Nagant with 2 spam cans of combloc ammo.

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