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  • #76
    Kwikvette
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 3704

    Originally posted by Bigedski
    Dude pass on the single stage press, go directly to a progressive.
    What is your time worth, with a progressive you will save lots of time and have lots of ammo.
    I'll eventually go with a progressive for when I want to crank out plinking ammunition. That's when I'll come back and ask what the best progressive setup is

    In the meantime...slow is smooth and smooth is fast

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    Originally posted by longrange1
    my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
    Originally posted by XDJYo
    Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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    • #77
      stilly
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2009
      • 10685

      Hmm. Yall need to work on your delivery. I see it took yall 2 PAGES, nearly three pages of posts all going back and forth to answer the question for Mr. Kwikvette.

      This is terrible delivery time...

      Okay, it is done and wrapped up. Glad to see you got your questions answered.

      I really do not know why I posted thi- Oh yes I do. It is late and I am happy drunk after making a most excellent chocolate/peanut butter ganache cookie recipe for folks at work.
      7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

      Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



      And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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      • #78
        noylj
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 713

        >I've also read conflicting information such as only needing to thoroughly clean ammunition if picked up out at the range or field. When shooting your own reloaded ammunition, no cleaning is necessary other than the primer pocket?

        ALL you have to do is wipe off the case exterior, as far as cleaning goes, so you don't damage the sizing die. Range brass requires that you also look inside the case to be sure it is free of mud clods, insect nests, rocks, etc.
        Primer pockets are NOT that important. I like to clean out any white powder in the pocket, but don't care about the black soot.
        People LIKE shiny clean brass. It doesn't shoot any better.

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        • #79
          tonyjr
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 1448

          noylj
          I could care less how shiny my brass is .
          Primer pockets and flash holes are always cleaned .
          Probably about 80% of my reloads use magnum primers - they burn a little long and hotter . Less unburnt powder .
          As for the cases , all are checked for splits , cracks , bludges , bent bases and dings .
          life member - CRPA and NRA
          All ways listen - after you can say I new that

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          • #80
            longrange1
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2015
            • 1032

            Down the rabbit hole for a beginner

            my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
            Last edited by longrange1; 08-21-2017, 7:39 AM.

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            • #81
              RestrictedColt
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 773

              Shiny cases are easier to find on the floor, especially the desert floor where I do all my shooting.

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              • #82
                RestrictedColt
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2017
                • 773

                Originally posted by noylj
                >
                People LIKE shiny clean brass. It doesn't shoot any better.
                While it may not make or break precision in a huge way, saying there's no difference is ignorant. Clean brass will be more consistent than dirty brass. Primer pocket, flash hole diameter, case volume, neck tension/bullet retention; all these things vary with the state of cleanliness. Pin tumbling also helps de-burr flash holes.

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                • #83
                  Kwikvette
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 3704

                  Originally posted by stilly
                  Hmm. Yall need to work on your delivery. I see it took yall 2 PAGES, nearly three pages of posts all going back and forth to answer the question for Mr. Kwikvette.

                  This is terrible delivery time...

                  Okay, it is done and wrapped up. Glad to see you got your questions answered.

                  I really do not know why I posted thi- Oh yes I do. It is late and I am happy drunk after making a most excellent chocolate/peanut butter ganache cookie recipe for folks at work.


                  Thanks for popping in

                  Originally posted by noylj
                  >I've also read conflicting information such as only needing to thoroughly clean ammunition if picked up out at the range or field. When shooting your own reloaded ammunition, no cleaning is necessary other than the primer pocket?

                  ALL you have to do is wipe off the case exterior, as far as cleaning goes, so you don't damage the sizing die. Range brass requires that you also look inside the case to be sure it is free of mud clods, insect nests, rocks, etc.
                  Primer pockets are NOT that important. I like to clean out any white powder in the pocket, but don't care about the black soot.
                  People LIKE shiny clean brass. It doesn't shoot any better.
                  Originally posted by tonyjr
                  noylj
                  I could care less how shiny my brass is .
                  Primer pockets and flash holes are always cleaned .
                  Probably about 80% of my reloads use magnum primers - they burn a little long and hotter . Less unburnt powder .
                  As for the cases , all are checked for splits , cracks , bludges , bent bases and dings .
                  That makes sense as to why some clean their brass in a bucket of water and soap. I may just do that to begin with!

                  Originally posted by longrange1
                  my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                  Flash hiders are already restricted; they'll start banning brass because it's "too shiny" in the near future
                  Originally posted by longrange1
                  my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                  Originally posted by XDJYo
                  Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                  • #84
                    NYT
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 3811

                    Originally posted by longrange1
                    my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                    lol, this is sig worthy.

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                    • #85
                      Kwikvette
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 3704

                      Originally posted by NYT
                      lol, this is sig worthy.
                      I was thinking the same thing

                      Thought it was near impossible to replace my current one....
                      Originally posted by longrange1
                      my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                      Originally posted by XDJYo
                      Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                      • #86
                        stand125
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 1451

                        Since you are probably going to get the best of the best and money is not an issue I will suggest something in all seriousness. Order a $30 LEE CLASSIC LOADER in 223 and use it for your bolt gun before buying your press and dies. Reloading on the classic loader is easily as fast as a single stage and it really is a great way to learn basic reloading. I use mine still for recapping brass while watching TV and have one in my bug out bag with 350 bullets, lb of h355 and 500 primers.
                        Last edited by stand125; 08-21-2017, 2:13 PM.
                        CALGUNS DICTIONARY "FLIER": when a shooter wants to turn a 1 inch group to a half inch group because he flinched.

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                        • #87
                          Kwikvette
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 3704

                          Real quick;

                          Here's a shot of some brass that I've shot next to some unfired rounds.

                          Its safe to say that I can just deprime, resize, trim, remove burrs, etc. without having to tumble?



                          This brass has been fired by me and was picked up immediately after being shot.

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                          Originally posted by longrange1
                          my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                          Originally posted by XDJYo
                          Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                          • #88
                            JDay
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19393

                            Originally posted by Kwikvette
                            Real quick;

                            Here's a shot of some brass that I've shot next to some unfired rounds.

                            Its safe to say that I can just deprime, resize, trim, remove burrs, etc. without having to tumble?



                            This brass has been fired by me and was picked up immediately after being shot.

                            Sent from my SM-G920T1 using Tapatalk
                            I'd tumble it.

                            Sent from my LG-H910 using Tapatalk
                            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                            • #89
                              stilly
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 10685

                              Shot at an indoor range?

                              Yeah, for ladders for sure- looks gtg.

                              No harm in tumbling, but lately my ladders are looking dirty as sin.
                              7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                              Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                              And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                              • #90
                                tonyjr
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2015
                                • 1448

                                Yup , the inside of case is not important as long as out side is pretty .
                                life member - CRPA and NRA
                                All ways listen - after you can say I new that

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