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  • Fiveohmike
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1047

    500 S&W Reloading Jackpot day

    Finally got everything delivered for reloading the 500 mag, cant wait to try out some loads. Just sticking with H110 for now, don't have any reason to go to a lighter load.

    Those 440g lead flat nose gas checked bullets are fricken huge! Gonna load a range of powder weights over the next day. Got enough to make 200 rounds, probably gonna order some more brass just to have ~400 rounds on hand at any time.

    The Berrys I am gonna run 39.5g - 42.5g loads, trying to keep pressures under 50k and the FPS under 1750fps

    The 440g I am going to run at 34.5 - 37.5g keeping the pressure under 49k and aiming for under 1650fps.

    Its insane to think of a pistol shooting a 440g bullet at 1600+ fps.





    440g, 350g, and a 9mm lol

    -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.
  • #2
    garyngwind
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 363

    noob question: LRM can be used for LPM?
    Last edited by garyngwind; 03-23-2017, 3:36 PM.

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    • #3
      Fiveohmike
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 1047

      Originally posted by garyngwind
      so LRM can used for LPM?
      After a short while after being released, S&W changed the spec on the 500 magnum brass to use Large Rifle primers (regular and magnum) due to the firing pin piercing the large pistol primers when running high pressure loads.

      So now most guys are running the Starline 500 Mag LRP brass:

      -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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      • #4
        garyngwind
        Member
        • May 2010
        • 363

        ah, thanks Mike. i remember reading somewhere that Rifle Primer can be used as Pistol Primer, but i will hi-jack this thread

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        • #5
          wbunning
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2013
          • 808

          Originally posted by Fiveohmike
          Those 440g lead flat nose gas checked bullets are fricken huge!

          Its insane to think of a pistol shooting a 440g bullet at 1600+ fps.
          And here I think I've got all I can handle sending a measly 240 grain down a .44 pipe at that speed. I'd have to bolt my boots to the floor!

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          • #6
            stilly
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2009
            • 10685

            Originally posted by Fiveohmike
            After a short while after being released, S&W changed the spec on the 500 magnum brass to use Large Rifle primers (regular and magnum) due to the firing pin piercing the large pistol primers when running high pressure loads.

            So now most guys are running the Starline 500 Mag LRP brass:

            https://www.starlinebrass.com/produc...0-S&W-Mag-(R)/
            Great. So how do you know if you got a LP or LR? I heard the dimensions between them two were slightly different. One might have been longer actually.

            Sounds like we got us a black hawk dow- err another .45 sp/lp issue...
            7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

            Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



            And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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            • #7
              Fiveohmike
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 1047

              Originally posted by wbunning
              And here I think I've got all I can handle sending a measly 240 grain down a .44 pipe at that speed. I'd have to bolt my boots to the floor!
              Heh! It will be stout for sure. The first 100 rounds that I bought evidently were light loaded, 300g @ 1500fps ~ 1500ft/lbs of energy.

              The 440g will have ~2700ft/lbs of energy and the 350g will have ~2500ft/lbs of energy at max loads.

              But also, don't forget the 500 Mag with the 8 3/8" barrel is 15" long and 70oz in weight. It helps mitigate some of the recoil. I have a buddy with a snubnose 44Magnum, that when couple with fullhouse loads, its very very sharp and almost painfull recoil
              -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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              • #8
                Fiveohmike
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 1047

                Originally posted by stilly
                Great. So how do you know if you got a LP or LR? I heard the dimensions between them two were slightly different. One might have been longer actually.

                Sounds like we got us a black hawk dow- err another .45 sp/lp issue...
                Large Rifle Primer brass has a "R" stamped on the brass after the word MAG, see:

                -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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                • #9
                  stilly
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10685

                  Well that is good to know.
                  7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                  Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                  And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                  • #10
                    wbunning
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 808

                    Originally posted by Fiveohmike
                    Heh! It will be stout for sure. The first 100 rounds that I bought evidently were light loaded, 300g @ 1500fps ~ 1500ft/lbs of energy.

                    The 440g will have ~2700ft/lbs of energy and the 350g will have ~2500ft/lbs of energy at max loads.

                    But also, don't forget the 500 Mag with the 8 3/8" barrel is 15" long and 70oz in weight. It helps mitigate some of the recoil. I have a buddy with a snubnose 44Magnum, that when couple with fullhouse loads, its very very sharp and almost painfull recoil
                    Makes my arthritis hurt just thinking about it ;-). But, yeah. I shoot my .44 mags out of a Ruger SRH and S&W 29. The SRH wins in the recoil handling department. Keep us posted as to your loads and results.

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                    • #11
                      GILMORE619
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 560

                      The muzzle brake on the 500 and 460 really helps tame the recoil. The harder you push them the better the brake works. Now the 700 grain bullets are a different story all together
                      Originally posted by elSquid
                      Like Yoda said: "Buy. Or buy not. There is no whine."



                      -- Michael
                      Originally posted by Pardini
                      Obviously, they just threw that shat out there for Calgunners to proof read and expose the loopholes. Now that we have done our part, they will go back and tighten it up and make our fruking airtight.

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                      • #12
                        GILMORE619
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 560

                        Mike, the dies you have pictured are steel and not carbide. Do you lube the brass beforehand? Do you plan on running a separate crimp die on the 650?
                        Originally posted by elSquid
                        Like Yoda said: "Buy. Or buy not. There is no whine."



                        -- Michael
                        Originally posted by Pardini
                        Obviously, they just threw that shat out there for Calgunners to proof read and expose the loopholes. Now that we have done our part, they will go back and tighten it up and make our fruking airtight.

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                        • #13
                          Fiveohmike
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 1047

                          Originally posted by GILMORE619
                          Mike, the dies you have pictured are steel and not carbide. Do you lube the brass beforehand? Do you plan on running a separate crimp die on the 650?
                          I am gonna lube the cases for sure, i do that even with carbide (on my rifle rounds).

                          They were recommended to me by Dillon so I went with them.

                          When I was talking to the guys at dillon the recommended not using a separate crimp die, and just using the seating roll crimp, and making it a deep roll, with the RCBS dies.
                          -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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                          • #14
                            Fiveohmike
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1047

                            Originally posted by GILMORE619
                            The muzzle brake on the 500 and 460 really helps tame the recoil. The harder you push them the better the brake works. Now the 700 grain bullets are a different story all together
                            My Underwood 700g boxes show up tomorrow lol
                            -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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                            • #15
                              GILMORE619
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 560

                              Originally posted by Fiveohmike
                              My Underwood 700g boxes show up tomorrow lol
                              Going all in
                              Originally posted by elSquid
                              Like Yoda said: "Buy. Or buy not. There is no whine."



                              -- Michael
                              Originally posted by Pardini
                              Obviously, they just threw that shat out there for Calgunners to proof read and expose the loopholes. Now that we have done our part, they will go back and tighten it up and make our fruking airtight.

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