spp vs. lpp in .45acp

[Pauliedad]

So we all agreed some time ago that we'd want to find the guy who came up with spp in .45 and punch him a couple of times but I need to maybe rethink that.
Some time ago I stumbled across a pretty good deal on 4K of processed .45 in spp.
I recently got in a volume loading mood and loaded up a thousand of these.
I have to say that I may just be changing over. My Dillon 650 has always run smoother with small pistol primers and the recent batch was no exception.
Obviously I'll have to be aware about sorting but the smooth load session would make that extra effort worth it.
Any others out there?

[RR.44]

I still try to avoid the spp .45s, lpp is more common.

[Don the savage]

Spp .45 is the devil and you are contributing to armageddon by continuing the use of this evil brass. It should all be melted down and made into lpp .45 as God and John Browning intended. ( or at least the ordinance board)

[JMP]

Usually, the smallest primer that you can use to get an effective ignition is the best to control accuracy. Thus, small primer 45 is superior to large primer 45, in my opinion. The large primer pockets are most a carry over from the old days. If you look at modern short action precision rifle cartridges, they are pretty much all going the way of the small primer.

At the same time, I don't think it matters much in 45 ACP.

[stilly]

So we all agreed some time ago that we'd want to find the guy who came up with spp in .45 and punch him a couple of times but I need to maybe rethink that.
Some time ago I stumbled across a pretty good deal on 4K of processed .45 in spp.
I recently got in a volume loading mood and loaded up a thousand of these.
I have to say that I may just be changing over. My Dillon 650 has always run smoother with small pistol primers and the recent batch was no exception.
Obviously I'll have to be aware about sorting but the smooth load session would make that extra effort worth it.
Any others out there?

So he is a family member or a dear friend of yours we now seem to find out...

Yes, we are reading between the lines.

Bring him out. He needs to accept his cumuppins... (is there really any correct way to spell cummuppins?)




Wait, you mean size really does not matter?

I had the same effect when I glues my spp in the middle of the holes for the lpp brass. I think I might switch over to spp primers in my lpp brass too! It makes the shells lighter also.




Yeah I know what you mean, it means I need not worry about buying yet another primer type or changing over one less or two-three less things while making ammo on the press...

I have enjoyed that thought several times and I am keeping them onhand for that reason, but shhh, dun tell noone K?

Now let's find him and kick his ***!

[Fishslayer]

Obviously I'll have to be aware about sorting but the smooth load session would make that extra effort worth it.
Any others out there?

I always sort by headstamp so LPP or SPP is just a minor PITA.

Smoothness depends. I have to really lean on my Lee Classic Turret to get CCI LPP fully seated. With softer Winchesters there's not a lot of difference.

[Toolbox X]

SPP are great to use when I shoot in areas where I can't pick up my brass. I still hate them.

[Pauliedad]

I might be that guy not picking up the LPP brass.
I too have to give a little more oomph to seat the large pistol primers.

[liber]

I might be that guy not picking up the LPP brass.
I too have to give a little more oomph to seat the large pistol primers.

Gotta eat more Wheaties!

On second thought, look what it did to Bruce Jenner...? Maybe you have the right idea sticking with SPP...LOL

[rcslotcar]

I had free once fired spp 45 acp brass given to me for several years. I threw away all my lpp brass that was 25-30 years old. I have a couple of 5 gallon buckets of spp brass that will meet my needs for many years.

[Eljay]

Just be sure to collect them all up please.

[silas3d]

"comeuppance"

LPPs for me...

[milotrain]

My Dillon 650 has always run smoother with small pistol primers and the recent batch was no exception.
Any others out there?

Same here. I prefer to leave the priming system in place on my 550 (which sees mostly .223) and run SPP .45acp for practice.

Usually, the smallest primer that you can use to get an effective ignition is the best to control accuracy. Thus, small primer 45 is superior to large primer 45, in my opinion. The large primer pockets are most a carry over from the old days. If you look at modern short action precision rifle cartridges, they are pretty much all going the way of the small primer.

At the same time, I don't think it matters much in 45 ACP.

I feel the same way. I know that Salazar did a test with Lapua SRP vs LRP 308 and couldn't see an accuracy difference, but I also know that he absolutely saw an accuracy difference with low temperature primers over high temperature primers. Benchresters shoot SRP for a reason. I agree it doesn't much matter in the 45acp.


If I could find really quality SPP 45acp brass then I'd shoot it exclusively and trade all my LPP 45acp brass to someone who didn't want their SPP.

[stilly]

0o0o0 What if they made SPP to LPP adapter bushings?

Now THAT would be cool, to be able to put an adapter in your primer pocket and then you can run SPP or SRP instead of the large...

[Carcassonne]

I bought a batch of small primer 45ACP brass back around 2009 when primers were hard to find. Now I can load 45ACP with whatever size primers I can find. I can probably even use rifle primers if my firing pin spring is strong enough.

If I could get 44 Magnum, 44 Special, 308 Winchester, and 10mm bras with Small Pistol Primers, I would do it.

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