What's Going On?

[RR.44]

I've been reading a few posts here and more than once I've read about people who have no issues with "filing" or taking a dremel to a seater plug????

I don't get this practice, reloaders should know what they are buying, dies were not meant to be "reworked" and or "modified" some mfgrs have what is necessary to reload different types of bullets whether it be a RN or FP , inquire what is available from the various mfgrs before purchasing any die set, this will keep you from having to modify anything.

After all safety should be our first concern, modifying a die IMHO is not safe.

I apologize if this sounds like a rant, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

[toby]

Research is king!

[h.charlie]

I don't see the danger, you should be measuring and checking for flaws anyways.

[RR.44]

The flaw is in the reloader not the equipment.

[edwardm]

The flaw is in the reloader not the equipment.

How is altering a bullet seating plug a safety issue?

[LynnJr]

Agree there is no safety issue with altering a seating die.
What needs to be understood is the proper way to alter.

Redding used to alter the seating plug for you but have now redesigned it so the long pointy VLD type bullets won't bottom out.

[eric n]

I do it to everyone. Matter of fact, I polished a seater last night.

[stilly]

I've been reading a few posts here and more than once I've read about people who have no issues with "filing" or taking a dremel to a seater plug????

I don't get this practice, reloaders should know what they are buying, dies were not meant to be "reworked" and or "modified" some mfgrs have what is necessary to reload different types of bullets whether it be a RN or FP , inquire what is available from the various mfgrs before purchasing any die set, this will keep you from having to modify anything.

After all safety should be our first concern, modifying a die IMHO is not safe.

I apologize if this sounds like a rant, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Yeah well not everyone cares to send their seating stem in because they want to load FTX.

I am sorry. Have we met before? I do not recall seeing you here.

LOL@safety. IF anything it would be a lopsided seat I think...

[drdarrin@sbcglobal.net]

I've been reading a few posts here and more than once I've read about people who have no issues with "filing" or taking a dremel to a seater plug????

I don't get this practice, reloaders should know what they are buying, dies were not meant to be "reworked" and or "modified" some mfgrs have what is necessary to reload different types of bullets whether it be a RN or FP , inquire what is available from the various mfgrs before purchasing any die set, this will keep you from having to modify anything.

After all safety should be our first concern, modifying a die IMHO is not safe.

I apologize if this sounds like a rant, I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Actually, when it comes to seater plugs, you might be the only one.

Please articulate on how this mod is a safety issue?

[RR.44]

I never said you had to agree with me, I wasn't looking for support, I was merely stating that the practice of modifying dies is a waste of time and effort, the proper tools for the job can be had from the onset. And yes Stilly we have met before, it was at the monthly shoot at Insight.

[gunboat]

Nonsense --

[Grunt81]

What's the point of polishing the seating stem? Is it sandpaper rough to begin with?

What's the point of filing a seating stem? Are you getting marks on the bullet from having uneven seating pressure on opposite sides of the seating stem?

Some one please enlighten me. If you say you need a different seater plug for different bullet profiles, then I'd just recommend you get a Lee bullet seater. I've loaded round nose, flat point, hollow point, and lead bullets. All those rounds are as concentric as you can get without a Redding micrometer die and I've never seen any marks left on the copper plate, copper jacket, or lead bullet.

I took out my seating stem and wiped it down for the first time after 10,000 rounds of that caliber (9mm). There was no difference in accuracy or cosmetics between a clean seating stem and one with 10,000 rounds worth of residue on it. And I will say, my pistol accuracy standards without an optic are higher than most.

Maybe there isn't much of a safety issue by modifying a bullet seating stem. But wouldn't there be an issue with modifying a sizing die or crimp die? I agree with RR44. Dies aren't manufactured to be modified.

[eric n]

I do it because it gives me a little more consistant seating when running compressed loads with vld's. ... And it gets rid of the ring above the ogive that bugs me but means nothing.
It works for me

[stilly]

I never said you had to agree with me, I wasn't looking for support, I was merely stating that the practice of modifying dies is a waste of time and effort, the proper tools for the job can be had from the onset. And yes Stilly we have met before, it was at the monthly shoot at Insight.

Hmmm. Damn it is bugging the hell out of me. I recall seeing your screen name but damn. I do not remember what you looked like. WAIT- white guy, brown hair, about 6' and had a gun right?

Hmmm, but you are not going to be there tonight though :\

Tonight will be a dangerous night, calgunners falling all over themselves outside the parking lot stuffed inside of that place like a bunch of cgs (calgunsausage)...

I seriously think I might need a bigger bottle of moonshine... :\

[Victor Cachat]

I certainly wouldn't file or Dremel one.
(I'd use the lathe.)