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  • #76
    AGGRO
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2793

    Originally posted by hayesman76
    I think I read somewhere (which obviously doesn't mean it has to be true) that even when residents have a surveillance system installed, in most cases the pics/video actually don't result in the perps being caught anyway.

    For example, it seems to me like it would be easy for a criminal to claim "it wasn't me, just someone who looks like me." Also, I've rarely seen surveillance pics/video that were clear enough to identify people with very high certainty.

    What do you think?
    I have cameras outside and inside during the day. If I see someone getting into the house I can either be there in minutes or 911 and have the Cops there. I can follow them with a joystick for as long as they are in sight.

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    • #77
      hey8you
      Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 190

      I use no-ip. They provide free program you install on your DVR. You pick a free domain name and their program updates there server with your current IP address.

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      • #78
        Jayss109138
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 14

        Lets just say, I'm covered from all angles.

        Ip, PoE cameras, some wired, some wireless, in and out. Redundant data storage. A screen shot from my phone of a couple of angles. All adjustable from anywhere my phone had signal.

        Buy the best you can afford, make it expandable too.
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        • #79
          Toyman321
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 1620

          Originally posted by Yugo
          If you are near me I can help you.
          Im just over the hill in Simi.... help


          Seriously, I've been putting this off for way too long.

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          • #80
            Satex
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2006
            • 3501

            The problem I have come across is that most consumer grade systems offer NTSC grades camera with pretty poor optics and low grade CMOS sensors. This translates into poor pictures. HD quality cameras bump up the system price significantly.

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            • #81
              gorn5150
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 1453

              I have wireless cams set up in my downstairs so I can see all possible points of entry to my house. I hated the lack of knowing what was going on downstairs while upstairs. It is nice to be able to check on the house from anywhere i'm at.

              The night vision of the newer cameras is pretty amazing. I figured it would be crappy gimick vision. With the night vision on everything is viewable at night.

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              • #82
                hoodrat
                Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 265

                yugo pm inbound
                "The only person you should try to be better than is the person you were yesterday." Unkown

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                • #83
                  lanwarrior
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 566

                  Use DropCam.

                  Wireless...HD quality.

                  Or if you can wait...a new Indiego project called Canary. It's a camera that have temperature sensor, humidity sensor, etc..etc..

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                  • #84
                    Clever
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 591

                    CCTV

                    In all My years CCTV equipment is not a technology that is purchased from Costco, Staples or some Korean/ Chinese junk.
                    Let me put you guys on game with a Japanese Manufacturer.
                    Cameras
                    9) CBC True Day and Night 1/3 inch Dome cameras with Built in IR . Day 540 TV lines Color and Night 600 TV lines Black and White.
                    2) Siamese Plenum Cable 1000 foot rolls or Cat 5 with Bailins
                    1) CBC 16 Channel triplex DVR w/networking & PTZ control, 1000GB Hard Drive
                    Built-in PTZ control compatible with major supplier models
                    120 IPS (images per second)
                    External Storage via Firewire
                    Triplex (Playback/Record/Live View simultaneously)
                    Networking (full remote control over network using client software or web browser)
                    Firmware and PTZ drivers upgradeable via website or USB device
                    Front panel USB port enables easy archiving of data via USB storage device
                    Event/alarm/video loss notification sent via e-mail
                    This is what is call a solid mid grade CCTV system. I have never took the cheap rout. Pay more and get even more, I have this in my house and truly love the Quality and stable functionality. Crisp picture and DVR Playback, Motion Detection is top notch and Notification, remote view via smart phone and is smooth and HI Res..MY II as I have been in the industry for 15 years.
                    As a fellow Calgunner I am willing to help free of charge with any questions regarding CCTV Technology. Just PM ME
                    There are four questions of value in life... What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for.

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                    • #85
                      blazeaglory
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2011
                      • 6370

                      Originally posted by 180ls1
                      So are dogs and a 12g not enough anymore? I mean I know more cameras and stuff would be safer but I think I'm pretty well off.
                      Exactly...

                      I mean, cameras are good for recording and presenting evidence after the fact, but unless you have a motion sensor that alerts you to movement outside the home, or are coked out watching the monitors 24/7, a dog and motion sensing lights and a 12g is good enough.

                      Its just another excuse for paranoid people with cash to spend and act cool.

                      Are you really going to watch your monitor 24/7? besides, if you have neighbors, they can file suit against your for invasion of privacy if they think the cameras are pointed at their house to spy inside...

                      Unlike the U.S. Constitution, the California Constitution contains an explicit guarantee of privacy in Article I, Section 1 of its “Declaration of Rights.” For this right to be violated, video surveillance must fulfill three criteria: 1) It constitutes an intrusion. 2) It intrudes in a location or context where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. 3) It outweighs other interests by the gravity of the alleged violation. A good example of a constitutional violation would be if your boss installed a hidden camera inside the toilet stall of a restroom. That would be a location where privacy is assumed and the location could not be justified as a security risk (as opposed to near a cash register).
                      Last edited by blazeaglory; 09-22-2013, 11:07 AM.
                      A note to the NSA or anyone gathering information on me, this disclaimer is for you..."Everything I type on this website Is purely fictional and for entertainment purposes only. None of it is true."

                      Also, sometimes I type in CAPS to emphasize a POINT. Please dont interpret that as YELLING. Sorry if I HURT any fuzzy little bunny's FEELINGS out there.

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                      • #86
                        Clever
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 591

                        Originally posted by blazeaglory
                        Exactly...

                        I mean, cameras are good for recording and presenting evidence after the fact, but unless you have a motion sensor that alerts you to movement outside the home, or are coked out watching the monitors 24/7, a dog and motion sensing lights and a 12g is good enough.

                        Its just another excuse for paranoid people with cash to spend and act cool.

                        Are you really going to watch your monitor 24/7? besides, if you have neighbors, they can file suit against your for invasion of privacy if they think the cameras are pointed at their house to spy inside...

                        Unlike the U.S. Constitution, the California Constitution contains an explicit guarantee of privacy in Article I, Section 1 of its “Declaration of Rights.” For this right to be violated, video surveillance must fulfill three criteria: 1) It constitutes an intrusion. 2) It intrudes in a location or context where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy. 3) It outweighs other interests by the gravity of the alleged violation. A good example of a constitutional violation would be if your boss installed a hidden camera inside the toilet stall of a restroom. That would be a location where privacy is assumed and the location could not be justified as a security risk (as opposed to near a cash register).
                        Blaze: Seems like you know the privacy laws well. But there are ways to prevent invasion of privacy. Putting a camera were it clearly does not belong is wrong!! Cameras installed inside private property are pointed only the direction of coverage needed. There is a clear understanding in the CCTV industry and we follow these rules like Religion. Signs stating "you are being recorded or CCTV on premises eliminates all responsibility and invasion of privacy is VOID on any LEVEL. Now Technology is something that you may need to keep up with or understand better. A good DVR these days made by a Reputable manufacturer, NOT Korean or Chinese CRAP! Will do everything except wash your car. You made a remark about being in front of the monitor or being notified by the system is not good enough.
                        1. A well made DVR will contact Monitoring Center and send clips of the unlawful entry.
                        2. Will contact 911 and or local police
                        3. will contact you and send video of entry
                        4. will lock and unlock doors over the internet via smart phone or remote access.
                        5. Turn on your lights at a given time, notify you or spouse of all programmed activity
                        6. Make continuous sweeps of property indoors and out looking for movement and identifying temperatures to distinguish between animal and human. according to set Perimeters
                        7. (Remote Access) having total control of your home down to changing DVR setting as you sip a May Tay in Hawaii.
                        8. Tied into a access control system for more security and property control
                        9. Turn on your coffee maker
                        The possibilities are overwhelming to say the least, and we are just talking about residential systems and coverage.
                        I am here for our Calgunner and will offer advice for any CCTV questions. FREE
                        Last edited by Clever; 09-22-2013, 12:07 PM.
                        There are four questions of value in life... What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for.

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                        • #87
                          Yugo
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 8382

                          Clever, I am sorry but I have been selling Korean equipment for many years and it is not CRAP. I can not say the same for Chinese.

                          The sensors are mostly all made by Sony.
                          sigpic

                          Originally posted by WAMO556
                          Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                          Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                          Umm yeah!!!!!

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                          • #88
                            Yugo
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 8382

                            Clever, I am sorry but I have been selling Korean equipment for many years and it is not CRAP. I can not say the same for Chinese.

                            The sensors are mostly all made by Sony.
                            sigpic

                            Originally posted by WAMO556
                            Voting for Donald Trump is the protest vote against: Keynesian economics, Neocon wars, exporting jobs, open borders, Washington criminal cartel, too big to fail banks and too big to jail pols and banksters.

                            Cutting off foreign aid to EVERY country and dismantling the police/surveillance state!

                            Umm yeah!!!!!

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                            • #89
                              Clever
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 591

                              So are the imagers, but I think Samsung is making a move. The Korean equipment is Korean, OK. But I will put a mid range Japanese system against it and (all do respect) Leave it in my dust.. Sensors regardless of the manufacturer are for perimeter security even though they can be incorporated into the DVR, BUT NOT NEEDED. The DVR automatically senses motion and calculates according to the perimeters set by OPERATOR.
                              These days, analog systems have reached the ceiling in technology and performance..IP will set such a high standard that the capabilities are unbelievable.

                              Archie Postachyan
                              Security Proffesional / Loss Prevention Consultant
                              CCTVSUPPLIERS.COM
                              Select Systems Technologies Inc.
                              ReliableCCTV.com
                              There are four questions of value in life... What is sacred? Of what is the spirit made? What is worth living for, and what is worth dying for.

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                              • #90
                                kentactic
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 1127

                                I'm casing your house via your cameras right now. I'm diggin that TV. Now go to work. Dont forget to check in on FB to remind me your not home. Technology rocks.

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