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  • #61
    meaty-btz
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 8980

    Right now my only beef is with the USB clock chip bug in 10. I happen to have the chipset that seems to be the issue, so do a lot of people. MS has refused to acknowledge this bug. Nothing like transferring to USB at 10kbps. Not bad hardware but kernel issue. Works fine under Linux and I get full USB 3 speed.

    Believe me there is no fix. The incompatibility has to do with the clocking on a certain brand of USB hub controller and windows kernel. Nothing the manufacturer can do. But the issue is deeper I think because my hub in the system with the non issue chip still refuses to transfer above 10mbps. It's maddening to work with any removable device.
    ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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    • #62
      the86d
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2011
      • 9587

      I am really not a fan of giving M$ more denero for something that has a slower GUI response time, AND less efficient to use. If you use UNCs from the Start menu all the time, like most old-schoolers, you feel my pain w/Win10.

      They haven't even fixed the RT-Click glitch with Windows 7 yet, and it has been an issue with every OS since Vista. I really can't believe this still hasn't been resolved even 3-FULL versions of windows later...
      Having to click, just to rt-click and get the correct menu on files is something I do every day too, which is even worse on Win10 (more of an issue on everything other than Windows 7).
      Last edited by the86d; 01-15-2018, 4:32 AM.

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      • #63
        Deedle
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 1146

        Originally posted by the86d
        I am really not a fan of giving M$ more denero for something that has a slower GUI response time, AND less efficient to use. If you use UNCs from the Start menu all the time, like most old-schoolers, you feel my pain w/Win10.
        Yeah, no.
        • WIN+R, or just WIN in 10: Run whatever you like
        • Pin frequently used applications to the taskbar.
        • Remove the cruft MS places in start and replace it with the stuff that's used.


        For example:
        • If I need to scale a screenshot, WIN and type mspaint
        • If I want to work on a recently used VS 2017 solution, right click on the VS2017 icon that's on the taskbar and select the solution from the list
        • If I want to log into one of the many VMs. right click the RDP icon and select the pinned rdp profile from the list
        • and so on.
        "No personal computer will ever have gigabytes of RAM" - Scott Nudds

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        • #64
          Dragunov
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1953

          Originally posted by Deedle
          Yeah, no.
          • WIN+R, or just WIN in 10: Run whatever you like
          • Pin frequently used applications to the taskbar.
          • Remove the cruft MS places in start and replace it with the stuff that's used.


          Anything visible on the taskbar, takes up video memory, and is unsightly.
          Having your taskbar, point to a folder with your shortcuts, is much neater looking, and uses far less video.
          "Cruft" can be removed easily in Win7, and replaced with more useful things.


          For example:
          • If I need to scale a screenshot, WIN and type mspaint
          • If I want to work on a recently used VS 2017 solution, right click on the VS2017 icon that's on the taskbar and select the solution from the list
          • If I want to log into one of the many VMs. right click the RDP icon and select the pinned rdp profile from the list
          • and so on.
          I keep all my shortcuts, and my "MMC" in a folder called "Tools" which have sub-folders with shortcuts, and very, small, portable programs in them.

          I add "New Toolbar" from the taskbars "Properties" settings. Keeps the taskbar from being cluttered. You can have as much as you like in there, and it's a single click away.

          For the average user, there is no significant advantage to WinX, over Win7. However, there are disadvantages in privacy, and security.
          Last edited by Dragunov; 01-17-2018, 11:58 AM.

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          • #65
            Deedle
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2018
            • 1146

            Originally posted by Dragunov
            Anything visible on the taskbar, takes up video memory, and is unsightly.
            I have 6gb of video memory and 64gb of RAM on this workstation, less on others but it's not an issue. It's really not. Welcome to 2018, 1981 called, it asked that we return the list of things to worry about that we borrowed.

            Pinning a half dozen most frequently used items to the taskbar is not going to tax resources in any real way.


            The average user might want to play a new game someday.
            "No personal computer will ever have gigabytes of RAM" - Scott Nudds

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            • #66
              otahak
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2015
              • 3

              You can get away with sticking with Win7 for another few years. Win10 is resource intensive, and will likely give you a "slower" experience unless you're also upgrading your PC.

              Save yourself some money (not to mention headaches) and stick with what you know
              "A stone, a leaf, an unfound door."

              -Thomas Wolfe

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              • #67
                Deedle
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2018
                • 1146

                Originally posted by otahak
                You can get away with sticking with Win7 for another few years. Win10 is resource intensive, and will likely give you a "slower" experience unless you're also upgrading your PC.

                Save yourself some money (not to mention headaches) and stick with what you know
                I wouldn't change for the sake of change but I wouldn't avoid change if there was a good reason either.
                "No personal computer will ever have gigabytes of RAM" - Scott Nudds

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                • #68
                  Dragunov
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1953

                  Originally posted by Rorge Retson
                  Win 7 on everything.

                  Be clear that Windows 8 and Windows 10 are for Microsoft ($$$), not us.

                  There is zero need for anything more than Win 7.
                  Windows 10? Yes. Windows 8.1? IMHO, best O/S Microsnot has ever developed. If you know how to "work it", it's better than 7, or 10.

                  I now have a Lenovo T440p, w/4thGen i7, 16gb/RAM, 1tb SSD, 1tb Seagate, as my DD, and it runs on Windows 8.1. It boots faster, and gets around better than WinX, It plays older games better, and has better compatibility with thousands of $$$ worth of software that I have, and it updates when *I* want, not when MS wants. It's much easier to configure, and manipulate.

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                  • #69
                    Calisnaps
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2018
                    • 82

                    Your fine with Win7, we run around 650 pc's on our networks and around 40% are still Win 7. The rest are Win 10, we removed all Win 8 machines due to performance.

                    Keep the security updates current and run a decent malware program.
                    "Okay, just one more gun......."

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                    • #70
                      Dragunov
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1953

                      Originally posted by Deedle
                      I wouldn't change for the sake of change but I wouldn't avoid change if there was a good reason either.
                      Very good point. Personally, I don't have a reason to change. However, as I'm a bit of a Rebel, if I *HAD* to use WinX, I'd be stripping it down, and allowing it to update as *I* see fit.

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                      • #71
                        machrono
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 637

                        Originally posted by Calisnaps
                        ......and run a decent malware program.
                        What is the best one these days for Win7 64?

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                        • #72
                          hey8you
                          Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 190

                          I was using windows 7 for my CCTV system. Iv upgraded it to windows 10 after they got rid of that ridiculous tile mode or what ever they called it.

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                          • #73
                            Rorge Retson
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 2712

                            Originally posted by machrono
                            What is the best one these days for Win7 64?
                            I use MS Security Essentials. It works great as real-time protection with a very small resource footprint.

                            I also have and use both Malwarebytes and Superantispyware when I think there may be a problem.

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                            • #74
                              Grumpyoldretiredcop
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 6437

                              Still using Win 7 Pro on my machine at home; we have nothing but Win 10 machines at work and I hate it. Admittedly, part of the issue is that I don't have admin control over the work PC.
                              I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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                              • #75
                                vintagearms
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 6841

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