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  • area51
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 715

    Do you still use win7?

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  • #2
    SkyHawk
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2012
    • 23518

    They will have to pry Win 7 from my cold, dead hands. Or give me something better than the joke that is Win10.

    Win 7 is still the OS with the most market share, especially in the enterprise. So you are in good company. Security updates still coming, and may even get an extension past 2020 if they can't produce something better than a tablet UI for a desktop
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    • #3
      jdfthetech
      Member
      • Dec 2017
      • 189

      As far as security goes, Win 7 is very dangerous to run for anything other than games and fun stuff

      The security updates are bare minimum and hardware support is nil.

      I would not trust it over win 10
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      • #4
        SkyHawk
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        • Sep 2012
        • 23518

        Win 7 has 43% of the entire desktop marketshare. Calling it 'very dangerous' is drama queen advice.

        The security updates are not 'bare minimum', they are exactly what Win 10 receives, except Win 10 just needs more of them.

        In the enterprise, where they are hardly 'playing games and fun stuff', it has 68% share as of 6/2017. If you know something that the highest paid IT folks in the world don't, maybe you should quit your day job and go evangelize Win 10.

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        • #5
          Kestryll
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          • Oct 2005
          • 21584

          Everything I have runs Win 7 64 Pro.

          8 was a joke and 10 still looks too much like preschool playtime.

          I use computers not cell phones or tablets so I don't need the tile interface.
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          • #6
            area51
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 715

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            • #7
              FresnoRob
              Senior Member
              • May 2013
              • 2133

              Originally posted by SkyHawk
              Win 7 has 43% of the entire desktop marketshare. Calling it 'very dangerous' is drama queen advice.

              The security updates are not 'bare minimum', they are exactly what Win 10 receives, except Win 10 just needs more of them.

              In the enterprise, where they are hardly 'playing games and fun stuff', it has 68% share as of 6/2017. If you know something that the highest paid IT folks in the world don't, maybe you should quit your day job and go evangelize Win 10.

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              • #8
                nine mil thrill
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1037

                i have win 7 on a laptop that is used only for paying my on-line bills. it always remains off until i need to pay bills. with win 10 installed, there were so many updates that needed to be downloaded, i would have to wait quite a while before i could actually use it for paying bills.
                now with win 7, the system is more manageable, there are less updates needed, and my overall performance has picked up. yes.....i like win 7
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                • #9
                  jdfthetech
                  Member
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 189

                  Originally posted by SkyHawk
                  Win 7 has 43% of the entire desktop marketshare. Calling it 'very dangerous' is drama queen advice.

                  The security updates are not 'bare minimum', they are exactly what Win 10 receives, except Win 10 just needs more of them.

                  In the enterprise, where they are hardly 'playing games and fun stuff', it has 68% share as of 6/2017. If you know something that the highest paid IT folks in the world don't, maybe you should quit your day job and go evangelize Win 10.
                  The core kernel of the OS and the Microsoft drivers are updated for Win 7. This does not include all drivers or all software on your machine.

                  If MS releases a patch for an exploit, it gets put into a queue for companies to repair. Those companies take longer to release Win 7 patches because they have Win 7 and 8 on the low priority list. Part of the reason for this is a delay in API updates for some of the older compilers especially if it's a 32 bit app. These patch delays increase your risk of getting a virus. Many companies don't even patch for Win 7 anymore as it's reaching end of life.

                  The reason you see enterprise dragging their feet has nothing to do with security, it's simply cost vs reward. They don't upgrade because their isn't much incentive to do so. It's cheaper to pay an insurance company to cover them if they get hacked than it is to update 10000 PCs and train everyone.

                  Us plebs don't have the luxury of paying an insurance company a few bucks and getting a new PC whenever we get hacked, we lose real data.

                  I stand by my statement that Win 7 isn't a safe OS to be running these days.
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                  • #10
                    Bushwack44
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2042

                    Juuuust upgraded to Win 10 from Win 7 (64 bit). Main reason was I could download it free until 12/31/17.

                    My first install didn't go well (got corrupted somewhere - probably because it wasn't a clean install). Second install was 'clean' and all is well. I had only one compatibility issue (can't run ESET Nod32 w/o hiccups - and they acknowledge there are issues). MS's Windows Defender runs in stealth and has been great. I run programs as old as Adobe's GoLive v6.0 & MS Office 2010 w/o problems.

                    I say go with Win 10 if your computer is quick enough (sounds like OP may have an older computer if he just upgraded to Win 7). FWIW, I had Win 7 on four networked computers and with good anti-virus and malware programs, never had a problem. One can live in the past only for so long.
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                    • #11
                      Jeepergeo
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 3506

                      Originally posted by Bushwack44
                      Juuuust upgraded to Win 10 from Win 7 (64 bit). Main reason was I could download it free until 12/31/17.

                      My first install didn't go well (got corrupted somewhere - probably because it wasn't a clean install). Second install was 'clean' and all is well. I had only one compatibility issue (can't run ESET Nod32 w/o hiccups - and they acknowledge there are issues). MS's Windows Defender runs in stealth and has been great. I run programs as old as Adobe's GoLive v6.0 & MS Office 2010 w/o problems.

                      I say go with Win 10 if your computer is quick enough (sounds like OP may have an older computer if he just upgraded to Win 7). FWIW, I had Win 7 on four networked computers and with good anti-virus and malware programs, never had a problem. One can live in the past only for so long.
                      Wait until you need to jump online to do something really fast and you get the message that Win 10 is updating and may take several minutes. Keep in mind that "several" to Microsoft might mean 10 to 40 minutes and may take a couple restarts. Then let us know how you like Win 10.

                      Win 10 has been a huge letdown. For business, I'd stick to Win 7 and for home Win 7 or 8 for as long as you can.
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                      • #12
                        67Cuda
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 1712

                        I use Windows 7 in a Virtual Box so I can still run older software that doesn't run on Windows 10.
                        I don't understand why people don't like Windows 10, it runs just as well as Windows 7.
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                        • #13
                          FresnoRob
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 2133

                          Originally posted by jdfthetech
                          ...........I stand by my statement that Win 7 isn't a safe OS to be running these days.

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                          • #14
                            the86d
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 9587

                            I use Win7 every day. I also use Win10 every weekday.

                            I will not install Windows 10 on any personal use machine, it's too slow compared to Windows 7 on similar tech. machines. Win10=too much going on in the background that doesn't need to. If Win10 is the future of asp-lag, I will be using Linux as the native OS and running Windows10 in a VM, but ONLY when required...

                            Win10 is the new Vista, WITH unused/unneeded bloatware/spyware OOTB.

                            On a Win7 box I can get things done 3x faster, minimum.

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                            • #15
                              BuddyBoy
                              Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 142

                              I generally keep running older OSes as long as they are supported (regular security patches still published), as I don't want the disruption of switching. I have a Windows 7 machine at work w/64GB of memory that has every version of Visual Studio installed on it from Visual Studio 6 (1998) thru Visual Studio 2015. I have a newer Windows 10 workstation at work (Dell PWS 3620) that I don't even use because I'd have to spend a day installing developer tools on it.

                              That said, I installed Windows 10 on a personal machine that I just built, and it's been a breeze to switch over. Having spend a couple months using Windows 10 on my development machine at home, I wouldn't bother installing Windows 7 on a new system. I have an unlimited MSDN subscription, so I have unrestricted access to any Microsoft software I want. Also did not want to go through any hoops to keep getting Windows 7 updates on 7th and 8th generation Core systems.

                              I converted my old physical Windows 7 system into a virtual machine for VMWare, to use on my new machine if needed. So far I haven't found anything that requires me to run the VM.
                              Last edited by BuddyBoy; 01-07-2018, 11:24 AM.

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