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  • #31
    Loopwell
    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2012
    • 1519

    Yup drilling into post tension is playing Russian Roulette.

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    • #32
      JDay
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 19393

      Originally posted by BMartin1776
      Yea this is very true. Glenn Beck(don't care if you like him or not) told story how someone in his affluent neighborhood in Texas had LARGE safe stolen that was bolted to the ground! Thieves were obviously pros but if thief wants your safe they'll find a way to crack it or take it! Best bet is to drill it into ground. Contractors weigh in would it be difficult to fill in the concrete holes? Would it compromise the pad?
      It's easy to fill holes in concrete and the slab will not be weakened.
      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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      • #33
        JDay
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 19393

        Originally posted by kriller134
        I have no clue. I don't even know what that is, so I'll be googling it. Is there anything I should be worried about?
        It'll be stamped into the slab if it is.

        Last edited by JDay; 02-04-2015, 10:31 PM.
        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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        • #34
          teg33
          Veteran Member
          • May 2013
          • 3441

          Originally posted by kriller134
          I have no clue. I don't even know what that is, so I'll be googling it. Is there anything I should be worried about?
          Drilling into pretension slab concrete is not good idea, if you broke the cable it can cause catastrophe result, not only you can severely damage the foundation of the building, it can also kill you on spot

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          • #35
            kriller134
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1302

            Just read up on the post tension slab and now I'm worried. I don't want to be liable for destroying a house I don't own, so I think I'm gonna bolt it to the wall. I read that it can either be marked with a stamp or not. I will be covering it so people can't see it when the garage door is open.

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            • #36
              Kowan
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2015
              • 1474

              Good idea about camouflaging it. Make sure to lock up any tools in the garage too. Make the thieves bring their own.

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              • #37
                JDay
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 19393

                Originally posted by kriller134
                Just read up on the post tension slab and now I'm worried. I don't want to be liable for destroying a house I don't own, so I think I'm gonna bolt it to the wall. I read that it can either be marked with a stamp or not. I will be covering it so people can't see it when the garage door is open.
                Look at the picture I posted. There will be evenly spaced circles on the outside of the slab where the cables are. After the concrete cures the cables are cut and those holes are filled in but they remain very obvious. It's very easy to identify a post tension slab.
                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                • #38
                  kriller134
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1302

                  Originally posted by JDay
                  Look at the picture I posted. There will be evenly spaced circles on the outside of the slab where the cables are. After the concrete cures the cables are cut and those holes are filled in but they remain very obvious. It's very easy to identify a post tension slab.
                  Cool thanks for your help

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                  • #39
                    klewan
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 3031

                    As a former landlord, just drilling a couple of holes in the garage floor would have been considered a gift compared to the other damage rental scum is capable of....

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                    • #40
                      kriller134
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1302

                      I'm thinking about just calling the landlord and asking him if he's cool with it. What do you guys think of that idea?

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                      • #41
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by kriller134
                        I'm thinking about just calling the landlord and asking him if he's cool with it. What do you guys think of that idea?
                        Why? It's no different than putting screws in the wall.
                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #42
                          kriller134
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1302

                          Originally posted by JDay
                          Why? It's no different than putting screws in the wall.
                          You make a good point. I guess the reason I'm so torn on what to do is because A. It's not my house and B. For some reason I feel that drilling into concrete is way more serious than drilling into wood. JDay how far down into the ground do I have to dig to see those holes if they're there?

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                          • #43
                            JDay
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19393

                            You shouldn't have to dig. They'll be visible on at least one side of the foundation if it's post tension. And a masonry bit would have a hard time cutting a cable if you hit one, just go slow and check the hole if you feel resistance.
                            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                            • #44
                              kriller134
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 1302

                              Thanks JDay and thanks to everyone else that contributed to this thread.

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                              • #45
                                Nacho_Eater
                                Member
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 383

                                Originally posted by 760knox
                                Do you know if it a Post Tension slab you'll be drilling into
                                This.

                                Drilling into a stressed concrete slab will ruin your day in a big way.
                                I tip 20% for average service.

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