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  • #46
    mike_the_wino
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2871

    Originally posted by xxINKxx
    Oh yea 28 grams is an ounce. Im not up to par with my drug dealings
    You also learn these things in chemistry. I spend an inordinate amount of my time translating metric to our crappy system. Really blows monkey balls.

    But, hey, I can do maths so I'm ahead in this market because of my skilz, right?

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    • #47
      ducitis
      Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 270

      It's pretty obvious why you got denied. Illegal drugs!
      Only thing you can do is hire a lawyer to try and get things cleared up through the court system.
      There is no other thing you can do, calling ATF, FBI, DEA, AT&T will Not work.

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      • #48
        Awesomesauce
        Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 272

        Originally posted by The Gleam
        "....and they call saying I am denied dros."

        OK, but did they say why? No - they can't, as they don't even know as to why it's denied. They are not advised as to why.

        1) Have you verified the reason with the DOJ/BOF for your denial? It could it be some lesser innocuous issue having nothing to do with your assumption of the case from your past.

        2) How far into your 30 days are you at this moment? (Others have had this happen and the issue has resolved itself without the LiveScan, without an answer from the DOJ/BOF within the 30-day time.)

        There can be a lot of mundane reasons for a denial...
        • ID doesn't match address,
        • Name spelled wrong/typed in wrong,
        • City/Zip Code issue for your residence (which with you being active could pose a host of anomalies),
        • The GUN could have a serial number issue/anomaly/mistake,
        • The FFL made some other mistake on the DROS entry,

        ... and more.

        Try to get a specific answer as to why you were denied first before going on a wild goose chase.
        X2 on this one.
        A couple of other questions, are you a CA resident? I am assuming yes. For your place of residence did you put your home of record, or current duty station? That right there may cause a mismatch. Additionally using FPO AP addresses do not "compute" because they are technically outside California, so that would be another cause for a denial. You really need to #1- figure out why you were denied, and #2 talk to legal office/personal lawyer to get your personal stuff squared away.

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        • #49
          GMG
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2008
          • 7974

          Originally posted by Tragic Image
          Negative, retired veterans are exempt.
          Not all veterans.
          Several years ago Veterans were exempt. I called a LGS, told them I was a veteran and what do I need paper wise too bring. They told me, drivers lic.,car registration and a copy of my DD-214. Also I left the copy of my DD-214 for their files.

          Went back to buy another pistol about a year later and they told the DD-214 doesn't work any longer. Need a HSC card!
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          • #50
            Steve_In_29
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 5682

            Originally posted by Tragic Image
            Negative, retired veterans are exempt.
            Not all veterans.
            Yep, a retired Air Force admin guy is exempt but an 8 year Marine with 4 combat tours and medals for bravery under fire has to take the test.

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            • #51
              Steve_In_29
              Banned
              • Nov 2009
              • 5682

              Originally posted by eviioiive
              That doesn't make sense and its not how the legal system works.. The DA wouldn't file unless the Det can show you met the elements of the crime, a DA doesnt just dig up old crap, the judge doesnt have to give you anything especially with no proof
              Actually they can dig up old crap and file. A Marine buddy of mine was involved in a car accident (his car was hit as he made a left turn into a parking lot) but no charges were filed. Basically told it was a wash on both parties faults.

              Fast forward about a year and as we went through customs in Alaska upon return from deployment to Japan he was pulled aside. When we got to LAX we were all asked to remain seated and for him to come to the front of the plane. Where he was met by police as he had a warrant out for his arrest due to the prior accident.

              The kid who broadsided him (never even slowed down) was the son of a Colonel who apparently pushed the local DA to file charges.

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              • #52
                eviioiive
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1620

                To dig up something there has to be something to dig... which is my point.
                OP and your buddy(both marines? strange) are leaving the pertinent details out


                What were the charges?
                Last edited by eviioiive; 02-03-2015, 8:22 PM.
                Originally posted by Kestryll
                Your name has been publicly printed in newspapers and on the web, your expectation of privacy is flat gone.
                Originally posted by CALGUNS.NET
                You have been banned for the following reason: posting other member's personal info without permission. I don't care what your reasoning is that is not allowed.

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                • #53
                  kozumasbullitt
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2912

                  Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                  Yep, a retired Air Force admin guy is exempt but an 8 year Marine with 4 combat tours and medals for bravery under fire has to take the test.
                  What is even more asinine is that during your 8 active years you are exempt, when you are discharged you are not exempt because you must have forgotten how to safely handle a firearm but if you serve a little longer and retire, your memory is restored and you are exempt again. Once a Soldier/Marine always a Soldier/Marine.

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                  • #54
                    Michael Ehline

                    Originally posted by Merc1138
                    Yeah this state can be that stupid. Sensible call on contacting calguns, but don't post anymore details online in the event it actually does turn into a legal issue.
                    Yeah Janet Reno may show up in your squad bay with some dogs and some army pukes to take you to the brig there crazy one.

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                    • #55
                      mikenewgun87
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 7732

                      Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                      Yep, a retired Air Force admin guy is exempt but an 8 year Marine with 4 combat tours and medals for bravery under fire has to take the test.
                      This!

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                      • #56
                        Mitch
                        Mostly Harmless
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 6574

                        Originally posted by eviioiive
                        To dig up something there has to be something to dig... which is my point.
                        OP and your buddy(both marines? strange) are leaving the pertinent details out
                        You missed one of the most pertinent details of the entire thread: the OP does not know why he was denied.
                        Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                        Getting called a DOJ shill has become a rite of passage around here. I've certainly been called that more than once - I've even seen Kes get called that. I haven't seen Red-O get called that yet, which is very suspicious to me, and means he's probably a DOJ shill.

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                        • #57
                          eviioiive
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1620

                          I didnt comment on that. I stated that his story is fos
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          Your name has been publicly printed in newspapers and on the web, your expectation of privacy is flat gone.
                          Originally posted by CALGUNS.NET
                          You have been banned for the following reason: posting other member's personal info without permission. I don't care what your reasoning is that is not allowed.

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                          • #58
                            bigbearbear
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 5378

                            Hey OP, did you use your social security number when you submitted your DROS form? It could be a simple case of identity mix up if you did not use your social security number.

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                            • #59
                              Decoligny
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 10615

                              Originally posted by Mitch
                              I am not at all sure about that. Are you? Are you saying that someone with a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction cannot be a Marine?
                              That is in fact the case.

                              Under the Lautenberg Act, anyone with any domestic violence conviction cannot possess a firearm.

                              In the Air Force, we have had people discharged due to misdemeanor domestic violence convictions. They become back office trash can emptiers until their discharge paperwork processes. They are considered "Non World Wide deployable" as they can't carry a weapon.
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                              If you haven't seen it with your own eyes,
                              or heard it with your own ears,
                              don't make it up with your small mind,
                              or spread it with your big mouth.

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                              • #60
                                bruss01
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 5336

                                Originally posted by houseofcards760
                                Just to clear up I was at the house working on his little brothers truck who is my age when they were raided by the sheriffs. They said since I was on the property I should of known and that they where charging me with cultivation BUT i did not have any marijuana on me or wasnt around it. The judge wanted to drop the whole thing saying "why are you guys bringing up old laundry" but the DA was pushing for something so the judge had to give me something. 11357C is what he gave me even tho there was no pictures or proof I had anything to do with it I was just there. Hate rambling on about this but it seems like some people on here think I deserve the punishment.
                                You had the option to fight a felony charge (which you should have won, if there was no proof of your guilt). My guess is that to save time, trouble and legal fees you plead out to a misdemeanor, as well as to avoid the small but potentially life-altering chance of something going sideways in court if you fought. Some misdemeanors in CA come with a ten year firearm ownership prohibition. This all should have been explained to you by your lawyer at the time if he was any good (i.e. not a "public defender" what a joke, they only exist to rubber-stamp plea deals). Maybe that's the situation or maybe you got probation and an offer to expunge after a certain amount of time. The catch is that they don't automatically wander over to the filing cabinet after the ten years is up and wipe your file, it's still there, you have to process a form to get them to officially remove you from the prohibited status list.

                                Your attorney (got a real one this time?) should be able to get you squared away, or at least filled in on the particulars of your situation. Hope you'll report it back here when you find out so that others can learn from your experience.
                                The one thing worse than defeat is surrender.

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