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  • #16
    Marinos
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1722

    Went with a 10mm 1911 over a Glock 20.

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    • #17
      jonzer77
      • Jul 2010
      • 8525

      Originally posted by BigPimping
      Gimme a old Glock over any 1911. I want my gun to work and I do not trust a 1911 to do so when I need it. Seen too many 1911 failures. There is a reason that many LE Agencies and military units all use Glocks. They work.
      LE uses glocks because they are cheap, not because they are the best. It's the year 2014 and there are several options out there for a reliable and accurate gun......no need to settle for a Glock.
      Originally posted by barrage
      That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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      • #18
        Sabesimpson
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1633

        'Nuff said and well said at that!
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        Sent from a hand held device!
        Apologies for any typos.

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        • #19
          TripleThreat
          CGN Contributor
          • Mar 2012
          • 2630

          Originally posted by jonzer77
          LE uses glocks because they are cheap, not because they are the best. It's the year 2014 and there are several options out there for a reliable and accurate gun......no need to settle for a Glock.
          Please feel free to list the gun(s) you feel are better for the price point, I'dl like to know as I don't like to settle.

          Triple
          Last edited by TripleThreat; 12-18-2014, 9:12 PM.
          1911 "The MILF of handguns"

          LINK: 9mm Shootout: BHP vs 92A1 vs SP-01 vs P-01

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          • #20
            WizeWizard
            Banned
            • Dec 2014
            • 226

            Bueller.........Bueller?

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            • #21
              mikenewgun87
              In Memoriam
              • Jul 2011
              • 7732

              You had me at Glock...

              Oh by the way, I think Glocks are beautiful!

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              • #22
                uhlan1
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2012
                • 6217

                Originally posted by TripleThreat
                Please feel free to list the gun(s) you feel are better for the price point, I'dl like to know as I don't like to settle.

                Triple

                Errr.....you just kind of made his point for him.
                "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                • #23
                  WizeWizard
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 226

                  Originally posted by uhlan1
                  Errr.....you just kind of made his point for him.
                  No he didn't. Re-read his post.

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                  • #24
                    TripleThreat
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 2630

                    Originally posted by WizeWizard
                    No he didn't. Re-read his post.

                    You really are wize.
                    1911 "The MILF of handguns"

                    LINK: 9mm Shootout: BHP vs 92A1 vs SP-01 vs P-01

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                    • #25
                      jonzer77
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 8525

                      Originally posted by TripleThreat
                      Please feel free to list the gun(s) you feel are better for the price point, I'dl like to know as I don't like to settle.

                      Triple

                      I think you misunderstood my post. I never said anything about better, just that there are other guns in that price point that are as reliable and accurate.

                      M&P
                      PPQ
                      VP9
                      Steyr M9A1
                      FNX

                      I could keep going but that's a good start. They all have much better triggers then glocks and you can't honestly say glocks are anymore reliable.
                      Originally posted by barrage
                      That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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                      • #26
                        deerdeerdeer
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2696

                        I hated polymer frames, especially Glocks. Why buy a plastic Honda Civic, when you can buy a Cadillac? Then, I got into reading the science of how polymer breaks down, and realize it just doesn't. Why is there so much micro plastic in the ocean, versus steel? Science doesn't lie, fact's don't lie. Plus I can take my Glock in the shower, flush it down the toilet, dig it in dirt, lube it with bananas, etc, and it'll function just fine. I still dislike Glocks, it's plastic, but man plastic is useful...

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                        • #27
                          SILENT GUNMAN
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 1468

                          As great as the Glock is, I prefer Sig. Don't get me wrong, I have 2 Glocks, but if Sig offered a 10mm I wouldn't have a need for my Glocks anymore. I shoot better with da/sa or dao triggers.
                          "Suck on my machine gun" (Ted Nugent)

                          Originally posted by Fishslayer
                          "9mm is for killing Europeans. For truly dangerous people you need a .45."
                          Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                          I showed up naked to ur house with cake. But you weren't home. YOur wife maced me. And I was arrested

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                          • #28
                            tonyxcom
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 6397

                            Originally posted by jonzer77
                            I think you misunderstood my post. I never said anything about better, just that there are other guns in that price point that are as reliable and accurate.

                            M&P
                            PPQ
                            VP9
                            Steyr M9A1
                            FNX

                            I could keep going but that's a good start. They all have much better triggers then glocks and you can't honestly say glocks are anymore reliable.
                            VP9 and to a lesser degree the PPQ just came out. How can you say they are just as reliable. The only one on that list that has seen any widespread adoption by any agency in this country is the M&P.

                            If agency purchases were dictated solely by price there are several options cheaper than a Glock yet some continue to pick the Glock amidst some very aggressive pricing and trade in programs from Sig and M&P.

                            Yes price is important. Reliability is more important.

                            Tell me if you find anything from your list besides the M&P here.

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                            • #29
                              TripleThreat
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2630

                              Originally posted by jonzer77
                              I think you misunderstood my post. I never said anything about better, just that there are other guns in that price point that are as reliable and accurate.

                              M&P
                              PPQ
                              VP9
                              Steyr M9A1
                              FNX
                              Glocks are proven over time over everything listed. There isn't a gun listed that is cheaper than that last 5 Glocks I'ver purchased, as I've never paid more then $500 for a Glock including Gen 4's.

                              I don't think Glock triggers are anything to write home about, but you press it, it goes bang. I think the whole perfect trigger thing is way over rated It's like riding a motorcycle, you can loose 20 lbs, or you bike can loose 20lbs. You get the point. I need reliability as well as capacity at a good price point. I get that with each Glock I've purchased.

                              Let's just agree to disagree.

                              Triple
                              Last edited by TripleThreat; 12-18-2014, 10:53 PM.
                              1911 "The MILF of handguns"

                              LINK: 9mm Shootout: BHP vs 92A1 vs SP-01 vs P-01

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                              • #30
                                uhlan1
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 6217

                                Originally posted by tonyxcom
                                VP9 and to a lesser degree the PPQ just came out. How can you say they are just as reliable. The only one on that list that has seen any widespread adoption by any agency in this country is the M&P.

                                If agency purchases were dictated solely by price there are several options cheaper than a Glock yet some continue to pick the Glock amidst some very aggressive pricing and trade in programs from Sig and M&P.

                                Yes price is important. Reliability is more important.

                                Tell me if you find anything from your list besides the M&P here.
                                http://www.tactical-life.com/firearm...e-departments/

                                Read "Glock: America's Gun" and you'll understand why so many agencies went with them. Hint, not that they're not, but it wasn't reliability. Very crafty outfit, tad dirty too.
                                Last edited by uhlan1; 12-18-2014, 10:23 PM.
                                "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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