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  • uhlan1
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2012
    • 6217

    Hi Points are cheap, reliable, lifetime warranty, great customer service. Not my flavor, but if you want one or it's what you can afford, more power to you.
    "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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    • SoCalEnthusiast
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 1734

      Originally posted by uhlan1
      Hi Points are cheap, reliable, lifetime warranty, great customer service. Not my flavor, but if you want one or it's what you can afford, more power to you.
      Makes sense. I'd just prefer to save up a few more duckets and get a glock, but too each their own.

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      • deerdeerdeer
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 2696

        Originally posted by uhlan1
        Hi Points are cheap, reliable, lifetime warranty, great customer service. Not my flavor, but if you want one or it's what you can afford, more power to you.
        I just want one to join that thread so its official =)

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        • TMB 1
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2012
          • 7153

          Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
          Makes sense. I'd just prefer to save up a few more duckets and get a glock, but too each their own.
          Better to have something that works good now than nothing.

          Another good Glock video
          Last edited by TMB 1; 12-23-2014, 11:36 PM.
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          • Steve_In_29
            Banned
            • Nov 2009
            • 5682

            Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
            Definitely not arguing, I'm intrigued with the glock brand. It's groundbreaking what they've done the last 50 years.
            Actually it's not. They simply followed in HK's footsteps. Plus it hasn't been 50 years. So little knowledge of the brand for a fanboi. Seems you just follow the herd without knowing why.

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            • JoshuaS
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1617

              I will never own a Glock

              1. It is true that custom expensive guns are less reliable. Heck a Holland and Holland is not very reliable compared to mass produced shotguns. That isn't the point.

              2. Plenty of other guns have been equally reliable. Just like much is made of Toyota Camry's, yet other cars make the highly reliable list without much mention, the same is true of Glock

              3. Not all Glocks are equal. Plenty of people have had issues with Glocks (e.g. the Glock 42, early production had issues of failure to feed)

              4. The same is true of other guns. Further, people who spend more tend to complain more when something goes wrong. Sampling bias there

              5. Accuracy? Look we are talking about HANDGUNS. What makes a handgun accurate is how well you fire it, not how well it could be fired (unless you are Jerry Miculek or some other top shot). If you fire Glocks better than say M&P, then fine.

              For me, the grip and the trigger make it really crappy to shoot

              6. Philosophy of use. Other than the 42, and even that to some extent, Glocks are fatter than many competitors for say CCW. That matters for some

              As I said I don't like Glocks, I don't hate them. But I have a pretty bad opinion of their fanboys who know squat about the mechanics and design.

              Oh, and to the tired cliches about an open mind. The purpose of opening a mind is so that it may close and keep truth when discovered. Glocks are ugly, have little craftsmanship, but have a smart design and broad tolerances. That works. But it is till personal preference to pick it.

              For me, never will I ever buy a Glock. Because I cannot shoot them as well because of the bad trigger and ergonomics. And every gun I have owned has been reliable. And even easier to take down in fact...

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              • JoshuaS
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1617

                Originally posted by P5Ret
                50 years is a bit of an exaggeration. While the Glock company has been around since the early 60's they made curtain rods and knives. Did not start gun manufacturing until the early 80's. No they were not the first ones with a polymer frame handgun. I believe H&K has that claim with the VP70.

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                • TMB 1
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 7153

                  Originally posted by JoshuaS
                  That is true. Striker fire was also much earlier.
                  Luger P08 has a striker.
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                  • deerdeerdeer
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2696

                    Originally posted by TMB 1
                    Luger P08 has a striker.
                    My Colt 1908 made in 1917 is Striker also... Grown men thinking they know all facts, but they don't know jolly.

                    Grown men on a forum supporting the 2A, yet they argue against each other over grammar, self righteous personal opinions, caliber debates, brand operating, and dupe threads, yawn, I had enough for tonight. ZzZZzz.
                    Last edited by deerdeerdeer; 12-24-2014, 12:06 AM.

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                    • uhlan1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 6217

                      Dude, if we didn't disagree and argue all we'd own is Glocks and nothing else. Or Walthers. Or CZ's. Learn a lot too through these spirited discussions..

                      I prefer to leave the herd mentality to the antis.
                      "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                      • deerdeerdeer
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2696

                        Originally posted by uhlan1
                        Dude, if we didn't disagree and argue all we'd own is Glocks and nothing else. Or Walthers. Or CZ's. Learn a lot too through these spirited discussions..

                        I prefer to leave the herd mentality to the antis.
                        True! Open political debates are acceptable, but people thrashing each other is unacceptable. Thanks for opening my view there a bit!

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                        • JoshuaS
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1617

                          If you ignore the inflammatory title, the video is very spot on.

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                          • JDay
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19393

                            Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
                            Definitely not arguing, I'm intrigued with the glock brand. It's groundbreaking what they've done the last 50 years.
                            Glock Ges.m.b.H*hasn't been making firearms for 50 years. And the HK VP70 predates it by 12 years.
                            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                            • Sharp Shooter
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 1128

                              Originally posted by deerdeerdeer
                              Get your CCW and whip it out in CA, you can barely do it at home, I dare ya during any situation. Numbers count but I rather not be a victim.
                              Wow that's the most convoluted logic or lack of logic I've heard. If you are carrying concealed you are not going to,"whip it out". You say you would rather not be a victim. People conceal carry so as to not be a victim.

                              Originally posted by deerdeerdeer
                              I'm not here to debate about grammar or the statues quo about CCW. It seems like all the grown men here want to argue over grammar and their superior personal opinions. As stated you might as well join the liberals! I feel like if a situation arises say a bank being a robbed and officer #3 didn't get information relayed, it's his natural instinct to determine the situation. CA can barely handle AR Santa Claus, so don't be surprise if someone calls in that your holding a gun at someone. I wouldn't be surprise if your CCW gets you killed, people are dying with their hands up in the air, down syndrome kids getting taken out the game in movie theaters, kids with BB guns getting blasted. CCW is asking for trouble in this liberal state, I've watch plenty of open carry videos going bad, I can only imagine what would happen here... However, I do hope that someday everyone is allowed to open carry/conceal carry, life would be much safer.
                              It seems as if the gist of your argument is that if you are carrying concealed you have a good chance of being shot by the police. Please post examples of that happening. I'll wait...

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                              • Sharp Shooter
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 1128

                                Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
                                I think we've all proved a point that glocks are the most superior man cannon for the price. Can we at least all agree on that?
                                Once again reading comprehension fail on your part. I think we can all agree on that.

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