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  • The Last American Hero
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    • Apr 2014
    • 1215

    Why would LE be exempt from MicroStamping?

    I would think it would be valuable tool after a shoot out to determine which LEOs fired which shots from which area/direction.

    Sure, shells eject for a ways and bounce around like little footballs and not always exactly the same each time and gun might itself in moving, etc but it is SOMETHING.

    At least they would know and be able to prove which shells weren't from LEO's guns.

    Is it such a 'no go' in the real world that CA legislature knows anyone required to have MS pistols will soon be without pistols?


    PS-And shouldn't cops be the FIRST group to be required to have guns that pass extra safety tests like a Drop Test, since they are more likely to be wresting/fighting while carrying a gun (with lots of totally innocent bystanders) than typical Joe Blow taking his Safe Queen to the range once a month. Couldn't a Loaded Chamber Indicator have saved CA greatest citizen, the late Oscar Grant???
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    Fjold
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    • Oct 2005
    • 22904

    Because law enforcement won't support it if it applies to them.
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      bsg
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      • Jan 2009
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      Originally posted by Fjold
      Because law enforcement won't support it if it applies to them.
      agree; that's a given.

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        bandogg
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        • Sep 2008
        • 525

        But why would LE not support it? Would make life easyer.

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          rcslotcar
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 1100

          The way guns are made they pretty much all have micro stamping. the cases are marked on the extractor and firing pin. The bullets are marked by the barrel. I don't understand micro stamping as fine sand paper will easily modify the marks. Drop tests are not a police problem, they are a result of people accidently(???) droping guns and having a/d's.

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            twotacocombo
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            • Mar 2014
            • 432

            Originally posted by bandogg
            But why would LE not support it?
            Probably for the same reasons we don't support it.

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              Neanderthal
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              • Feb 2014
              • 642

              It is supposed to be used as evidence in a crime. It can be manipulated and tampered with making it useless legislation that will complicate real detective work. But and the big butt is it is gun control by a PC name and a feel good public. I bet nearly all cops hope we control ourselves with BS laws that they will always get an exemption from.
              Last edited by Neanderthal; 11-02-2014, 12:44 PM.

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                Press Check
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                • Jun 2011
                • 4879

                Unless micro stamping is accompanied by a subsequent law that prohibits gunsmithing or replacing parts, the firing pin, ejector, or whatever part that will leave the identifying impression will be replaced by 9 out of 10 end-users.

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                  CK_32
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                  Originally posted by Fjold
                  Because law enforcement won't support it if it applies to them.
                  Yup. Do as I say, not as I do.


                  If anyone, those are the few who should be micro-stamped and be subject monitoring.
                  Last edited by CK_32; 11-02-2014, 1:08 PM.
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                    IVC
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                    • Jul 2010
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                    Whether LEO-s are exempt from a technology or not is THE BEST indicator of whether it's intended as an infringement/disarmament.
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                    • #11
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 44646

                      LE is not specifically exempt from 'microstamping'; LE is exempt from the restriction to buying only guns on the Roster; it's getting on the Roster that now requires microstamping for semi-auto handguns.

                      Again, please do not confuse yourself by believing that CA gun laws are actually about guns.
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                        thenodnarb
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                        • May 2009
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                        My guess is because they don't make any guns that are capable of microstamping.

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                          StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
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                          • Feb 2013
                          • 2995

                          Originally posted by CK_32
                          Yup. Do as I say, not as I do.


                          If anyone, those are the few who should be micro-stamped and be subject monitoring.
                          Yep.
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                            StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
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                            Originally posted by IVC
                            Whether LEO-s are exempt from a technology or not is THE BEST indicator of whether it's intended as an infringement/disarmament.
                            I agree.
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                              chris
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                              Originally posted by Fjold
                              Because law enforcement won't support it if it applies to them.
                              the LE unions wont support any gun control if LE isn't exempt. if anything they should have it in the event of an on duty shooting investigators will be able to tell who fired what and how many rounds.
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