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  • #31
    eviioiive
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1620

    LE doesnt make the laws and most in my experience are pro good guy w guns. its not actually us vs them
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    Your name has been publicly printed in newspapers and on the web, your expectation of privacy is flat gone.
    Originally posted by CALGUNS.NET
    You have been banned for the following reason: posting other member's personal info without permission. I don't care what your reasoning is that is not allowed.

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    • #32
      WyattandDoc
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 767

      Originally posted by QXSOUP
      ...And there in lies the problem. The "line" officers need to come put publicly and state that they DO NOT agree with what their supervisors/admins are doing. But we all know that will never happen... you know risk the golden parachute retirement and all... "Line" officers are the face of the government for a great number of people. What the government does/says comes directly from the mouth of there "line" officers. YOU as a normal beat cop need to stand up and STOP the BS that is coming from your higher ups. the "just following orders" defense never has really worked real well.

      Most cops are in the "bad category" as you say because of this. If you disagree with a law and you know that it directly conflicts with the Constitution, then speak up and say something. The bad apples are NOT going to leave until the good guys separate themselves.
      Most ignorant sentence I've ever read on CalGuns.

      So I'm to conclude with your absolutely rediculous logic that our beloved military members are the face of the Obama Administration?!?!?! Really Bro?? I just puked up my dinner!!!!
      Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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      • #33
        CBR_rider
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 2698

        Originally posted by The Last American Hero
        I would think it would be valuable tool after a shoot out to determine which LEOs fired which shots from which area/direction.

        Sure, shells eject for a ways and bounce around like little footballs and not always exactly the same each time and gun might itself in moving, etc but it is SOMETHING.

        At least they would know and be able to prove which shells weren't from LEO's guns.

        Is it such a 'no go' in the real world that CA legislature knows anyone required to have MS pistols will soon be without pistols?


        PS-And shouldn't cops be the FIRST group to be required to have guns that pass extra safety tests like a Drop Test, since they are more likely to be wresting/fighting while carrying a gun (with lots of totally innocent bystanders) than typical Joe Blow taking his Safe Queen to the range once a month. Couldn't a Loaded Chamber Indicator have saved CA greatest citizen, the late Oscar Grant???
        No, it wouldn't have done anything for Oscar Grant. And yes, I bet you departments will be moving forward to have microstamping on their handguns (provided of course that someone could actually develop a system that works).
        Originally posted by bwiese
        [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
        Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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        • #34
          Anti-Hero
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 1572

          Originally posted by QXSOUP
          ...And there in lies the problem. The "line" officers need to come put publicly and state that they DO NOT agree with what their supervisors/admins are doing. But we all know that will never happen... you know risk the golden parachute retirement and all... "Line" officers are the face of the government for a great number of people. What the government does/says comes directly from the mouth of there "line" officers. YOU as a normal beat cop need to stand up and STOP the BS that is coming from your higher ups. the "just following orders" defense never has really worked real well.

          Most cops are in the "bad category" as you say because of this. If you disagree with a law and you know that it directly conflicts with the Constitution, then speak up and say something. The bad apples are NOT going to leave until the good guys separate themselves.
          Why? Why would "line" officers, whatever that means, go to bat for people who try to throw them under the bus every chance you get?

          Enjoy your micro stamping.
          IPSO FACTO

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          • #35
            StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 2995

            Originally posted by Anti-Hero
            Why? Why would "line" officers, whatever that means, go to bat for people who try to throw them under the bus every chance you get?

            Enjoy your micro stamping.
            Oh, so if only they were loved they would "go to bat" for us.

            The real reason is very simple. Their exempt from this ridiculous law.
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            • #36
              MontClaire
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 4859

              While you all will debate the merits if microstamping, the liberast aholes behind it are rolling on the floor laughing.

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              • #37
                Anti-Hero
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 1572

                Originally posted by StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
                Oh, so if only they were loved they would "go to bat" for us.

                The real reason is very simple. Their exempt from this ridiculous law.
                Who said "loved" - I said not constantly bashed by people like you.
                IPSO FACTO

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                • #38
                  barrage
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 3351

                  Originally posted by Anti-Hero
                  Who said "loved" - I said not constantly bashed by people like you.
                  They made their choice when they all collectively sided with the government by embracing their own militarization and started treated everyone they came in contact with like a piece of ****.

                  Maybe when cops start refusing to enforce un-Constitutional laws and remember what it is to be a peace officer instead of a faceless law enforcer, they'll get the respect they think they deserve.

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                  • #39
                    Anti-Hero
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1572

                    Generalize much? Again, enjoy your micro stamping.
                    IPSO FACTO

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                    • #40
                      Librarian
                      Admin and Poltergeist
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 44654

                      Originally posted by Anti-Hero
                      Generalize much? Again, enjoy your micro stamping.
                      Unlikely - no gun manufacturer offers that misfeature.
                      ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                      Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                      • #41
                        Anti-Hero
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1572

                        Originally posted by Librarian
                        Unlikely - no gun manufacturer offers that misfeature.
                        And hopefully they will not ever offer that "feature."
                        IPSO FACTO

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                        • #42
                          geoint
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 4385

                          Originally posted by IVC
                          Whether LEO-s are exempt from a technology or not is THE BEST indicator of whether it's intended as an infringement/disarmament.
                          I never thought of it that way but dam that makes sense. Good post!
                          Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

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