Robbed on BLM?

[Eljay]

I've never really heard about this being a real serious issue. People get robbed everywhere, all the time. [...]

I do agree that it's an excellent idea to keep a gun(s) loaded out there when finished target shooting however and of course at one's own campsite, regardless of the location. That's just a "given." There's nothing wrong with being "prepared" all the time, no matter the locale.
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That sounds about right. I don't think there's a lot of risk out there, but given that it's legal to be armed and you're going to have guns with you anyway you might as well keep one loaded/handy. I was a little surprised by the people who do it gate-gate - I don't bother while I'm in the car, but whatever floats your boat.

[mr2ndamendment]

I always tell people if you're going to shoot out in BLM, bring buddies and keep at least one gun loaded and ready for defense. You're going out there so you're not bothered and can do your own thing, but you're not the only person who wants to do stuff alone and away from prying eyes. You could roll up on a pack of homeboys teaching their recruits how to use their full-autos and other weapons and they certainly don't want any witnesses to "gangbanger 101."

You could roll up on sketchy people with unknown intentions, or you may simply run out of gas/water and be in a survival situation -whatever the case, bring buddies, be aware of what's going on around you, and keep something at the ready.

[epilepticninja]

I don't care if I'm at an indoor or outdoor range, I always have my CCW on me. I've seen too much stupid **** at ranges not to be strapped while I'm there. And yeah, I know. It's a sad commentary in and of itself.

[caburian]

could it happen? of course..

has it happened at panoche hills? none that I could prove, no crime stats, no police report. Nothing but a bunch of I heard this, I heard that.. you know what I heard? aliens provide free ammo if you shoot there during the weekdays.

[G-Man WC]

Hope the dirtbags don't come out to the SSZS.
I'll bring a shovel.
-g

[adamjay]

Alright so help me identify a LEGAL strategy. Driving across BLM land with an unlocked HG, or a loaded rifle is illegal, right? So how about an AR on the passenger seat with a mag right next to it? Does it have to be in a case or not in the open to be legal? Out of reach or any such nonsense? I swear, I've read up on legal transport and firearms on public lands a hundred times, just hopin somebody has it committed to memory.

I'm not sayin I disagree with anybody who chooses to bend the rules to stay safe, just curious about a legal setup.

Good thing Cali works so hard to keep us all safe.

[NapalmCheese]

Happens all the time. People get robbed, then raped, then killed and buried on BLM land and no one ever finds out. It's sort of like "From Dusk Till Dawn" meets "The Hills Have Eyes" out there.

As such, this is how my buddies and I approach the problem:

3 days prior to our shooting event a 5 man group of us inserts 20 miles from our shooting area. Two shooters, two spotters, and a doc. Two precision rifles between us (F class rifles painted and taped for our weekend shoot, currently both are 6.5 Creedmore but I'm currently looking into a 6mm cartridge. We're not professional soldiers so we make do with what we've got). We travel on foot to within 2 miles of the objective and set up on a ridge overlooking the area. We observe the area for at least a day, noting ingress and egress points and noting routine movement.

On the shoot day we travel to within 1000 yards of where my friends will be shooting and establish our FFP. We can move pretty quick, we pack light and don't always wear armor. Everyone else in our team is fully armored.

Meantime, our friends travel in at least two different vehicles, both large enough to fit our entire group incase there's a need for an immediate evac. Their arrival times are staggered so in case of an ambush there is a backup available. As the first vehicle arrives our recon time provides overwatch and maintains radio silence unless there's an issue. The first team starts to unpack, leaving at least two people concealed carrying and two people open carrying. They start to unpack tables and stuff.

Meanwhile the second vehicle comes up (having been in radio contact with the first vehicle) and drives to the area where they will be setting up targets. This vehicle will have many semi-auto rifles since they are also the backup. Both vehicles use AR500 gongs behind the doors at supplementary armor and as something to shoot at later.

A fun day of shooting ensues.

At the end of the day the two vehicle teams alternately provide security for each other as they pack up, the first team drives out on an alternative egress route (so as to avoid any ambushes laid out during the day) and is followed 30 seconds later by the backup vehicle. Mean while the overwatch team moves to the nearest freeway exit ramp for a planned extraction.

We feel that is the only adequately safe way to shoot on BLM land.

Don't even get me started on how we approach National Forest land...

[Sikvenum93]

Happens all the time. People get robbed, then raped, then killed and buried on BLM land and no one ever finds out. It's sort of like "From Dusk Till Dawn" meets "The Hills Have Eyes" out there.

As such, this is how my buddies and I approach the problem:

3 days prior to our shooting event a 5 man group of us inserts 20 miles from our shooting area. Two shooters, two spotters, and a doc. Two precision rifles between us (F class rifles painted and taped for our weekend shoot, currently both are 6.5 Creedmore but I'm currently looking into a 6mm cartridge. We're not professional soldiers so we make do with what we've got). We travel on foot to within 2 miles of the objective and set up on a ridge overlooking the area. We observe the area for at least a day, noting ingress and egress points and noting routine movement.

On the shoot day we travel to within 1000 yards of where my friends will be shooting and establish our FFP. We can move pretty quick, we pack light and don't always wear armor. Everyone else in our team is fully armored.

Meantime, our friends travel in at least two different vehicles, both large enough to fit our entire group incase there's a need for an immediate evac. Their arrival times are staggered so in case of an ambush there is a backup available. As the first vehicle arrives our recon time provides overwatch and maintains radio silence unless there's an issue. The first team starts to unpack, leaving at least two people concealed carrying and two people open carrying. They start to unpack tables and stuff.

Meanwhile the second vehicle comes up (having been in radio contact with the first vehicle) and drives to the area where they will be setting up targets. This vehicle will have many semi-auto rifles since they are also the backup. Both vehicles use AR500 gongs behind the doors at supplementary armor and as something to shoot at later.

A fun day of shooting ensues.

At the end of the day the two vehicle teams alternately provide security for each other as they pack up, the first team drives out on an alternative egress route (so as to avoid any ambushes laid out during the day) and is followed 30 seconds later by the backup vehicle. Mean while the overwatch team moves to the nearest freeway exit ramp for a planned extraction.

We feel that is the only adequately safe way to shoot on BLM land.

Don't even get me started on how we approach National Forest land...

You are waayyyy to paranoid.........

[Full Clip]

Happens all the time. People get robbed, then raped, then killed and buried on BLM land and no one ever finds out. It's sort of like "From Dusk Till Dawn" meets "The Hills Have Eyes" out there.

As such, this is how my buddies and I approach the problem:

3 days prior to our shooting event a 5 man group of us inserts 20 miles from our shooting area. Two shooters, two spotters, and a doc. Two precision rifles between us (F class rifles painted and taped for our weekend shoot, currently both are 6.5 Creedmore but I'm currently looking into a 6mm cartridge. We're not professional soldiers so we make do with what we've got). We travel on foot to within 2 miles of the objective and set up on a ridge overlooking the area. We observe the area for at least a day, noting ingress and egress points and noting routine movement.

On the shoot day we travel to within 1000 yards of where my friends will be shooting and establish our FFP. We can move pretty quick, we pack light and don't always wear armor. Everyone else in our team is fully armored.

Meantime, our friends travel in at least two different vehicles, both large enough to fit our entire group incase there's a need for an immediate evac. Their arrival times are staggered so in case of an ambush there is a backup available. As the first vehicle arrives our recon time provides overwatch and maintains radio silence unless there's an issue. The first team starts to unpack, leaving at least two people concealed carrying and two people open carrying. They start to unpack tables and stuff.

Meanwhile the second vehicle comes up (having been in radio contact with the first vehicle) and drives to the area where they will be setting up targets. This vehicle will have many semi-auto rifles since they are also the backup. Both vehicles use AR500 gongs behind the doors at supplementary armor and as something to shoot at later.

A fun day of shooting ensues.

At the end of the day the two vehicle teams alternately provide security for each other as they pack up, the first team drives out on an alternative egress route (so as to avoid any ambushes laid out during the day) and is followed 30 seconds later by the backup vehicle. Mean while the overwatch team moves to the nearest freeway exit ramp for a planned extraction.

We feel that is the only adequately safe way to shoot on BLM land.

Don't even get me started on how we approach National Forest land...

That's pretty hilarious until you read stories like this.

[Surf & Turf]

Hey, do I get coverage while I set up the BBQ?

I need a three man team: one for my 6, the other my 12 and the third the airspace above me!

:-)

[NapalmCheese]

Hey, do I get coverage while I set up the BBQ?

I need a three man team: one for my 6, the other my 12 and the third the airspace above me!

:-)

Doc flys the quad copter.

[CessnaDriver]

Happens all the time. People get robbed, then raped, then killed and buried on BLM land and no one ever finds out. It's sort of like "From Dusk Till Dawn" meets "The Hills Have Eyes" out there.

As such, this is how my buddies and I approach the problem:

3 days prior to our shooting event a 5 man group of us inserts 20 miles from our shooting area. Two shooters, two spotters, and a doc. Two precision rifles between us (F class rifles painted and taped for our weekend shoot, currently both are 6.5 Creedmore but I'm currently looking into a 6mm cartridge. We're not professional soldiers so we make do with what we've got). We travel on foot to within 2 miles of the objective and set up on a ridge overlooking the area. We observe the area for at least a day, noting ingress and egress points and noting routine movement.

On the shoot day we travel to within 1000 yards of where my friends will be shooting and establish our FFP. We can move pretty quick, we pack light and don't always wear armor. Everyone else in our team is fully armored.

Meantime, our friends travel in at least two different vehicles, both large enough to fit our entire group incase there's a need for an immediate evac. Their arrival times are staggered so in case of an ambush there is a backup available. As the first vehicle arrives our recon time provides overwatch and maintains radio silence unless there's an issue. The first team starts to unpack, leaving at least two people concealed carrying and two people open carrying. They start to unpack tables and stuff.

Meanwhile the second vehicle comes up (having been in radio contact with the first vehicle) and drives to the area where they will be setting up targets. This vehicle will have many semi-auto rifles since they are also the backup. Both vehicles use AR500 gongs behind the doors at supplementary armor and as something to shoot at later.

A fun day of shooting ensues.

At the end of the day the two vehicle teams alternately provide security for each other as they pack up, the first team drives out on an alternative egress route (so as to avoid any ambushes laid out during the day) and is followed 30 seconds later by the backup vehicle. Mean while the overwatch team moves to the nearest freeway exit ramp for a planned extraction.

We feel that is the only adequately safe way to shoot on BLM land.

Don't even get me started on how we approach National Forest land...

We're too lazy for all that.
We call in a neutron bomb strike before we go in.

[4Defense]

If I had to go through all that shat just to throw rounds down range, I would be out of a job and be disqual for pschy eval by every potential employer out there.

[TrailerparkTrash]

Happens all the time. People get robbed, then raped, then killed and buried on BLM land and no one ever finds out. It's sort of like "From Dusk Till Dawn" meets "The Hills Have Eyes" out there.

As such, this is how my buddies and I approach the problem:

3 days prior to our shooting event a 5 man group of us inserts 20 miles from our shooting area. Two shooters, two spotters, and a doc. Two precision rifles between us (F class rifles painted and taped for our weekend shoot, currently both are 6.5 Creedmore but I'm currently looking into a 6mm cartridge. We're not professional soldiers so we make do with what we've got). We travel on foot to within 2 miles of the objective and set up on a ridge overlooking the area. We observe the area for at least a day, noting ingress and egress points and noting routine movement.

On the shoot day we travel to within 1000 yards of where my friends will be shooting and establish our FFP. We can move pretty quick, we pack light and don't always wear armor. Everyone else in our team is fully armored.

Meantime, our friends travel in at least two different vehicles, both large enough to fit our entire group incase there's a need for an immediate evac. Their arrival times are staggered so in case of an ambush there is a backup available. As the first vehicle arrives our recon time provides overwatch and maintains radio silence unless there's an issue. The first team starts to unpack, leaving at least two people concealed carrying and two people open carrying. They start to unpack tables and stuff.

Meanwhile the second vehicle comes up (having been in radio contact with the first vehicle) and drives to the area where they will be setting up targets. This vehicle will have many semi-auto rifles since they are also the backup. Both vehicles use AR500 gongs behind the doors at supplementary armor and as something to shoot at later.

A fun day of shooting ensues.

At the end of the day the two vehicle teams alternately provide security for each other as they pack up, the first team drives out on an alternative egress route (so as to avoid any ambushes laid out during the day) and is followed 30 seconds later by the backup vehicle. Mean while the overwatch team moves to the nearest freeway exit ramp for a planned extraction.

We feel that is the only adequately safe way to shoot on BLM land.

Don't even get me started on how we approach National Forest land...

Tin foil hat??????

You couldn't possibly possess a firearm legally, because your track record shows that you're deemed mentally insane.

[NapalmCheese]

Tin foil hat??????

You couldn't possibly possess a firearm legally, because your track record shows that you're deemed mentally insane.

We abide by all state and federal regulations.

BTW, 10 rounders taped butt to butt are about the size of a thirty rounder and completely legal.

Train like you fight, fight like you train.