When do you pay for a PPT?

[SILENT GUNMAN]

I've always done inspections inside the store. Money can be exchanged outside. Nothing worse than getting nailed for brandishing a firearm because you were dumb enough to be handling a gun in a public place (parking lot or street in some cases). If your ffl has a problem with the inspection happening inside the store then you need to find another ffl or meet at one of the 2 parties houses to eliminate the possibility of some libtard walking by and calling the cops on you.

[xxINKxx]

I've always done inspections inside the store. Money can be exchanged outside. Nothing worse than getting nailed for brandishing a firearm because you were dumb enough to be handling a gun in a public place (parking lot or street in some cases). If your ffl has a problem with the inspection happening inside the store then you need to find another ffl or meet at one of the 2 parties houses to eliminate the possibility of some libtard walking by and calling the cops on you.

Ide like to see the statistics on how many people doing a PPT have gotten in trouble in front of a gun shop for "brandishing" a firearm in a "rude, angry, or threatening manner" as the law is written for brandishing.

If ya can't even figure out how to look at a gun discreetly without causing a scene at your vehicle/tailgate then maybe you shouldn't be buying a gun. Ha.

[glock7]

Ide like to see the statistics on how many people doing a PPT have gotten in trouble in front of a gun shop for "brandishing" a firearm in a "rude, angry, or threatening manner" as the law is written for brandishing.

If ya can't even figure out how to look at a gun discreetly without causing a scene at your vehicle/tailgate then maybe you shouldn't be buying a gun. Ha.

Yeah I've done it this way, discreetly. I prefer to do it inside. Some ffl's I've gone to, want you to have the money change hands outside, but you can inspect it inside.

[HotelCommiefornia]

I've always done inspections inside the store. Money can be exchanged outside. Nothing worse than getting nailed for brandishing a firearm because you were dumb enough to be handling a gun in a public place (parking lot or street in some cases). If your ffl has a problem with the inspection happening inside the store then you need to find another ffl or meet at one of the 2 parties houses to eliminate the possibility of some libtard walking by and calling the cops on you.

^^^this

[Motion122]

Good thread for PPT newbies like myself.

[edgerly779]

^^^Not this. Inspect the gun inside a vehicle. Just open case and display inside the vehicle and put back in case and go inside and do dros . Seller only comes back if dros rejected to pick up firearm.

[4x4Trooper]

I don't believe it's safe or wise to handle or inspect firearms in the back of a car or just outside in a parking lot, but some sellers I've met prefer it.

I also don't think it's very wise to exchange cash before paperwork is signed.

[HotelCommiefornia]

Ide like to see the statistics on how many people doing a PPT have gotten in trouble in front of a gun shop for "brandishing" a firearm in a "rude, angry, or threatening manner" as the law is written for brandishing.

If ya can't even figure out how to look at a gun discreetly without causing a scene at your vehicle/tailgate then maybe you shouldn't be buying a gun. Ha.

To some uninformed anti idiots, all it takes is for them to catch a glimpse of a firearm, they'll probably call the LEO. Some people have nothing better do to, kinda like a nosy neighbor calling the inspector when you are doing some home remodeling.

There is also the risk for the buyer or seller, there's a firearm and money involved. Unfortunately, you just don't know who you're dealing with, haven't you heard enough murder/robbery stories of buyer meeting up with seller thru Craigslist, etc. Not far from here, one poor bastard met up with the buyer and was shot multiple times(killed) for trying to sell a PS4 console out in public, and the list goes on.

As another person had suggested, if the FFL do not allow it to happen in their store, go find another FFL.

[HotelCommiefornia]

I also don't think it's very wise to exchange cash before paperwork is signed.

Cash paid in full must be before paperwork is signed.

[HotelCommiefornia]

I have heard of guys only getting 1/2 their money listening to a buyers sob story about "what if I dont pass the background for unpaid parking tickets...I'll pay you the rest after I clear DROS."

Personal experience, not the same as that, but I did sell something after listing within the forsale section, the listing CLEARLY stated "CASH only and $20 bills only, no $100s". Guy shows up at FFL, (in the store)checked it out and decided to buy it, I asked for the cash, the asshat started writing me a check, I told him I specifically stated cash, he said "my check is good, there's money in the bank". Some people

[MrElectric03]

I've done two PPTs in the last six months.

The first, the employee worked at the FFL and it was his day off. He suggested we inspect the gun outside first then asked to see the cash. We went in and completed the transfer(if you think they move faster because the seller works there....wrong) and after paperwork was done we went outside and I gave him the cash.

The second, the seller wants to show the gun outside first, then we went inside and while the paperwork was being done I have him the money, store employee did not mind.

When I do a ppt I agree on price before hand. Get plenty of pics and I tell them as long as it looks as good as it does in the pictures I will agree to x price. Them when I go in for the transfer I bring three or four different second proof of residences. That way I am prepared for any BS the FFL will throw at me. Well almost, I've got quite a collection of $5 cable locks.

[high_revs]

never had an issue with doing ppt at 3 different lgs with me inspecting the firearm inside *and* paying the other guy inside. however, both sellers knew the stores well enough but i dont think they'll have a cow doing that.

yes, i even handed money in front of the employees.

to say inspect outside, what if a cop just suddenly passed by. what if another person who doesn't know what is going on calls 911. then you get into the technicality of arguing with the PD of what can and what cannot happen on a parking lot, which is private property of the owner of the grounds (and most likely not owned by the lgs).

to be safe, i bought a lock from wally world and have the receipt if they give me the bs of "you need to purchase a lock" even if the handgun comes with a lock. if it's a long gun, then at least i'm prepared.

[Euphoria526]

I've done 2 ppt's before.
Both were at different shops, both allowed me to inspect and pay in shop. I'm under the impression that if there is no issues with asking price/ payment or any disagreements there really shouldn't be an issue. But remember every store is different with different rules.

[jpx0123]

Ide like to see the statistics on how many people doing a PPT have gotten in trouble in front of a gun shop for "brandishing" a firearm in a "rude, angry, or threatening manner" as the law is written for brandishing.

If ya can't even figure out how to look at a gun discreetly without causing a scene at your vehicle/tailgate then maybe you shouldn't be buying a gun. Ha.

i was thinking more along the lines of proper transport of a firearm. i am not well versed in the specifics but why take the chance if the ffl is ok with doing the inspection inside?

i've done 4 PPTs and all 4 times was at a different ffl. each time, each ffl had no problem with doing the inspection inside. for a pistol for instance, i don't just check cosmetic condition, but like to make sure the slide works properly etc.. etc.. just safer to do inside.

for payment, that is a different story. usually fill the paperwork out and before signing for both the seller and me the buyer, i will step outside or to a discrete location in the store to hand over the cash. has worked well for me thus far.

[Veggie]

I pay after the seller signed the form.