What can we learn from the Bundy ranch situation?

[RamonSJC]

U.S. Government takes/kills and calls it manifest destiny.

[calwoodbutcher]

I learned that the Feds are not the only people I have to worry about. There are a lot of sheep that seem to buy into the statethink. They seem to believe anything BigGov/Media has to say without thinking for themselves. These people are as big a threat to America as the liers infiltrating their heads.

[calwoodbutcher]

I learned it is ok to be 100% against the Federal Government and still ride your horse around carrying the flag of the United States of America, even though you are 100% against what that flag represents.

The flag represents the United States of America! Not the federal Government that represents it's own interests.

[Sojournertruth]

the lesson is when you enjoy the freedoms of a country you have an obligation to pay your bills, not rip off the system because you have your own version of reality

you want your own version?...go live it somewhere else....this idiot is no better that those who start a church up and hide behind freedom of religion so they can bugger little boys, have 10 wives or smoke weed all day

its a scam..under the guise of the 2A...and looks like there's plenty of suckers here at calguns buying

[omgwtfbbq]

Pay your bills.

+1.

[Kruzr]

I learned that a rancher can cheat the taxpayers out of way more money in 10 years than a food stamp cheat could in their entire life.

[barrage]

I didn't learn anything that I didn't already know.

The government only responds to force and the majority of people in this country worship the State.

[geoint]

the lesson is when you enjoy the freedoms of a country you have an obligation to pay your bills, not rip off the system because you have your own version of reality

you want your own version?...go live it somewhere else....this idiot is no better that those who start a church up and hide behind freedom of religion so they can bugger little boys, have 10 wives or smoke weed all day

its a scam..under the guise of the 2A...and looks like there's plenty of suckers here at calguns buying

Rip off the system? Im gonna take a wild guess here and venture that you like Chris Christie and every other Rhino the GOP throws at us. You are a sheep

Bundy grazed on public land. Who the hell cares? The BLM only care cuz theyre busy on their knees for the Chinese and they (the Feds as a whole) will ruin anyone who gets between them and ruining what America once was.


The fact that Bundy is crazy is irrelevant. (He is totally nuts or retarded I cant argue with that)

[thenodnarb]

I learned that in this day an age, that law enforcement will only get involved if they have overwhelming odds in their favor. They are virtually unwilling to put their agents at risk in a situation where one of them might not make it back.
200 agents against one family? Sure. 200 agents against 200 armed citizens? oh ****. 200 agents against 1000 armed citizens? go home.

[Untamed1972]

The reality is this situation touches on so many areas of how the Feds have been getting out of control, pushing agendas, not following other parts of law, using enviro laws to control people and then discarding them when its convenient, etc it's hard to know where to start.

I concede that one some levels Bundy is prolly wrong as well, but that does not excuse federal overreach that has been going on for over a century now.

Maybe let's start with why does the BLM have armed agents in the first place? Especially since there seems to be no real statutory authority for them to have them?

Why does BLM need tac teams, snipers, and K-9 units? The problem is always going to become.....when you give guys all the tacticool gear and training.....they're gonna wanna use it. And lookie here.....they almost started a war over some f-ing cows!

But yea.....only the Gov't should have guns.

[Rickrock1]

Good communication and readiness

[Ross]

What have we learned: you don't own any land nor have any rights to any public lands unless you pay. You only rent the land from the goobermint until they change the rules to their favor.

[Rickrock1]

+1.

Did you even listen or read the facts. If the Rancher and family was truly in the wrong the BLM would have never punked out like cowards hat they are.....

Right is right and wrong is wrong and the people stood up for what is right and tired of the bullying of big over reaching Government.

[Untamed1972]

Did you even listen or read the facts. If the Rancher and family was truly in the wrong the BLM would have never punked out like cowards hat they are.....

Right is right and wrong is wrong and the people stood up for what is right and tired of the bullying of big over reaching Government.

Don't rule out some political pressure coming down from up above. Last things the Dems want is news footage of armed BLM agents gunning down americans right before the mid-term elections.

I also don't doubt some agents who formerly thought themselves to be quite badarse.......suddenly had the realization that going home to their family was more important than a bunch of cows, they were outnumbered and they knew it, and nothing they did short of backing down would have come out in their favor.

[BabyBen]

I think the bundy situation made me realize that the gov is not for the people.


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