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  • #31
    Intimid8tor
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2007
    • 6607

    Originally posted by vintagearms
    Why people don't go to the manufacturer's/dealers FIRST is beyond me.
    I agree. I don't know if it is a generational thing or what. It's pathetic really.
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    • #32
      systems
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 330

      REALLY

      Originally posted by RainierArms
      Our select barrels are polygonal. We have 3 different OEM barrels and they all come with a 90 Day - 100% satisfaction guarantee. We sell hundreds tp thousands of RA barrels per month and we wouldn't have the reputation if we sold second class products. We are in the middle of an office move but we'll be reopen on Wednesday. Ultimately, we want you to be happy so please send it back for a full refund!

      No way, I have your ''select Polygonal Rifled Barrel'' Its not, you have a very LOOSE definition of polygonal...

      Please be so kind as to define a polygonal rifling and then post a picture of your barrels ''Polygonal Rifling''

      I had no idea you guys were on CGN!
      Why get butt hurt over a thread, get a life instead!
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      • #33
        dieselpower
        Banned
        • Jan 2009
        • 11471

        Originally posted by systems
        No way, I have your ''select Polygonal Rifled Barrel'' Its not, you have a very LOOSE definition of polygonal...

        Please be so kind as to define a polygonal rifling and then post a picture of your barrels ''Polygonal Rifling''

        I had no idea you guys were on CGN!

        omg...clueless...

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        • #34
          vintagearms
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2009
          • 6841

          Originally posted by systems
          No way, I have your ''select Polygonal Rifled Barrel'' Its not, you have a very LOOSE definition of polygonal...

          Please be so kind as to define a polygonal rifling and then post a picture of your barrels ''Polygonal Rifling''

          I had no idea you guys were on CGN!
          As Rainer posted, if your not happy with their product, send it back. No internet drama, no hurt feelings, etc. Question has been asked and answered. I am now going to ask that this thread be locked.

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          • #35
            Diabolus
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 4732

            Originally posted by vintagearms
            As Rainer posted, if your not happy with their product, send it back. No internet drama, no hurt feelings, etc. Question has been asked and answered. I am now going to ask that this thread be locked.
            Why ask to have it locked? Seems to be good for Rainer, so far I think its about 99% pro Rainer.

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            • #36
              SB1964
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 4876

              Originally posted by vintagearms
              Why people don't go to the manufacturer's/dealers FIRST is beyond me.
              Daniel Defense & others, in their manuals will state things like "If you ever have a problem with our products, we'd like to be the first to know" I know for a fact DD does it & I took them up on it. They sent me a Hat & T-shirt. People would rather gripe than devote energy to a solution.
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              • #37
                Marinos
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1722

                I had problems with one of my barrels too. They do stand by their products though. Shoot them an email.

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                • #38
                  systems
                  Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 330

                  So awkward, how some people take this simply thing so personally. You guys should not let bother you so much, its just a forum....

                  I posted my findings of the barrel I never even said anything negative about the barrel other than the fact that it is NOT polygonal.

                  I am disappointed that it is advertised as Polygonal but it is actually not Polygonal because I paid too much for a stainless steel barrel that is actually just button pulled, thinking it was polygonal, SS 1/8 everything I like..... but its not.... see...

                  I could have bought a citadel or ss barrel for less than half of what I paid for the rainer and it would have had the same performance. And yes I can and do get Citadel/other Barrels for about the same price of what I paid for them last year and yes I do get a very good prices on them, about cost from certain vendors who know me well and I trade with, even now in this market. No citadel is not the best but I am not a huge AR fan so it would just be a for fun gun if I could not get the same performance out of it as I would out of an HK build.

                  Its not polygonal, very disappointing....

                  I did contact the company first and waited and contacted several times after that and waited..... and waited I though that was do to a lingering affect of people emailing and calling for back orders and stuff like that.

                  stay cool, calm and collected....
                  Last edited by systems; 03-18-2013, 4:15 AM.
                  Why get butt hurt over a thread, get a life instead!
                  Fanboys unite and share your dislikes
                  Favorite Car 1964 Galaxie XL
                  Favorite Gun Marlin 336 CS
                  FREE when you present a dd214 or active:
                  HK Builds your parts, from flats.
                  Barrel Work, threading, cutting, finishing, bluing/oxidizing and non caustic finishing.
                  EXPERIMENTING with Anodizing let me know if you want to submit a test subject

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                  • #39
                    Mute
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8605

                    Originally posted by systems
                    So awkward, how some people take this simply thing so personally. You guys should not let bother you so much, its just a forum....

                    I posted my findings of the barrel I never even said anything negative about the barrel other than the fact that it is NOT polygonal.

                    I am disappointed that it is advertised as Polygonal but it is actually not Polygonal because I paid too much for a stainless steel barrel that is actually just button pulled, thinking it was polygonal, SS 1/8 everything I like..... but its not.... see...

                    I could have bought a citadel or ss barrel for less than half of what I paid for the rainer and it would have had the same performance. And yes I can and do get Citadel/other Barrels for about the same price of what I paid for them last year and yes I do get a very good prices on them, about cost from certain vendors who know me well and I trade with, even now in this market. No citadel is not the best but I am not a huge AR fan so it would just be a for fun gun if I could not get the same performance out of it as I would out of an HK build.

                    Its not polygonal, very disappointing....

                    I did contact the company first and waited and contacted several times after that and waited..... and waited I though that was do to a lingering affect of people emailing and calling for back orders and stuff like that.

                    stay cool, calm and collected....
                    I'm assuming you know, since you've worked on various programs as a contractor, that there are two types of polygonal rifling, right? If not, I suggest you google female vs male polygonal rifling before you start making accusations...well, too late for that.
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                    • #40
                      Oceanbob
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 12720

                      Stay cool, calm and collected? You tarnish Cal Guns with your unnecessary little girl drama against one of the best companies on the planet? And you come off as a FOOL......

                      Please. Don't update us. You've embarressed yourself enough. And yes, we do take it personally.



                      Originally posted by systems
                      So awkward, how some people take this simply thing so personally. You guys should not let bother you so much, its just a forum....

                      I posted my findings of the barrel I never even said anything negative about the barrel other than the fact that it is NOT polygonal.

                      I am disappointed that it is advertised as Polygonal but it is actually not Polygonal because I paid too much for a stainless steel barrel that is actually just button pulled, thinking it was polygonal, SS 1/8 everything I like..... but its not.... see...

                      I could have bought a citadel or ss barrel for less than half of what I paid for the rainer and it would have had the same performance. And yes I can and do get Citadel/other Barrels for about the same price of what I paid for them last year and yes I do get a very good prices on them, about cost from certain vendors who know me well and I trade with, even now in this market. No citadel is not the best but I am not a huge AR fan so it would just be a for fun gun if I could not get the same performance out of it as I would out of an HK build.

                      Its not polygonal, very disappointing....

                      I did contact the company first and waited and contacted several times after that and waited..... and waited I though that was do to a lingering affect of people emailing and calling for back orders and stuff like that.

                      stay cool, calm and collected....
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                      • #41
                        MrExel17
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 9170

                        +1 for Rainer Arms
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                        • #42
                          systems
                          Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 330

                          Distorting semantics, ok so an apple is an orange?

                          a true poly is not 5R.
                          5r is not Polygonal, only by loose opinion do some people call it poly.

                          5R barrels have canted land, Polygonal has no defined land and groves.

                          5R rifling was developed after polygonal, where and when? ...

                          Why this is an accepted trend is sad.
                          Why get butt hurt over a thread, get a life instead!
                          Fanboys unite and share your dislikes
                          Favorite Car 1964 Galaxie XL
                          Favorite Gun Marlin 336 CS
                          FREE when you present a dd214 or active:
                          HK Builds your parts, from flats.
                          Barrel Work, threading, cutting, finishing, bluing/oxidizing and non caustic finishing.
                          EXPERIMENTING with Anodizing let me know if you want to submit a test subject

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                          • #43
                            dieselpower
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 11471

                            Originally posted by systems
                            Distorting semantics, ok so an apple is an orange?

                            a true poly is not 5R.
                            5r is not Polygonal, only by loose opinion do some people call it poly.

                            5R barrels have canted land, Polygonal has no defined land and groves.

                            5R rifling was developed after polygonal, where and when? ...

                            Why this is an accepted trend is sad.
                            as we all thought... you have no idea what you are talking about.

                            you are mixing "terms" with actual physical "attributes". poly does have a distinct "raised" area...no its not a "land" because a "land" is a term used for conventional rifling... its like when guys call the "lands and groves" "Threads".

                            Your barrel is most likely 100% Poly..you just don't know what you are looking at and do not know what you are talking about.

                            again there is a HUGE freaking difference between a Police Officer with "20 years on the job" and an Officer with 20 years experience. You maybe a secret agent for C.O.B.R.A...but you have much to learn young man.

                            back on my ignore list you go...
                            Last edited by dieselpower; 03-18-2013, 12:32 PM.

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                            • #44
                              Mute
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 8605

                              Originally posted by systems
                              Distorting semantics, ok so an apple is an orange?

                              a true poly is not 5R.
                              5r is not Polygonal, only by loose opinion do some people call it poly.

                              5R barrels have canted land, Polygonal has no defined land and groves.

                              5R rifling was developed after polygonal, where and when? ...

                              Why this is an accepted trend is sad.
                              Semantics? Just what exactly is a "true" poly? Who says? Kreiger, Lothar Walther, Noveske and a number of others are all barrel makers and they accept polygonal as more than what you understand to be "true" polygonal. Do some research before making unfounded conclusions. Please.
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                              • #45
                                NorCalAthlete
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 1799

                                I'm gonna have to side with Rainier and others on this one dude...I've ordered complete rifles, uppers, parts, etc through them with 0 issues and outstanding service.

                                Your complaint has been addressed and the ball thrown back in your court. On a public forum. Stop complaining and fix the problem.

                                Who wants to bet he sends the upper back, they send him another one, and he goes "omg it's STILL not a true poly barrel they sent me the exact same thing!!!" ?
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