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  • sharxbyte
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 2448

    So, at work yesterday...

    My boss is a very liberal, Card carrying Obama voting Democrat. For the most part, I'm fine with this. She is a good boss and treats all of us really well, and work feels like an extended family of sorts. Anyway, from everything I've heard her say, she isn't pro gun, and seemed to lean the other way.

    Last month a (relatively new, < 3mos) employee had a falling out with her, due to some attitude and insubordination issues, and was subsequently fired. The next day (and I didn't hear about it till 2 days afterward) some of the employees "friends" made some very threatening phone calls full to the brim with profanities and insults. Some of the things mentioned were(paraphrased, with LOTS of profanity) 'destroy your little shop' 'make you wish you hadn't been born', 'you're gonna hurt so bad' etc. I don't remember if the word "kill" or "burn" were explicitly used, but I seem to remember getting those impressions.

    Anyway, she felt threatened enough to file a police report, and call a security meeting with all 7 of her employees, showed us where the "help" buttons were and went over safety protocols, exit plans, etc.

    One of my coworkers moonlights as an armed guard, and I have a handgun and am in the process of getting my permit, and, after my boss made mention of the fact that she almost bought a gun when she was younger, we both brought up the fact that we both own and shoot handguns. She said she would think about us having them at work, and contact her insurance.

    The next week, she said that she had talked to her insurance and they said that there was a ton of liability involved and she thought it would be a better idea if I didn't bring it in to work.


    WELL, yesterday as we were leaving work, she asked me "Alex, How good of a shot are you?"

    not sure what she was talking about, I said "you mean with a gun?" (because there's basketball, blowguns, slingshots, archery, etc.)

    She affirmed that that was what she meant, and I said "Well, I can put every shot on the target at 10 yards... I'm not professional or anything, why do you ask?"

    She went on to explain that a Sacramento cellphone store had had an attempted robbery, and the owner shot the robber, and she wanted to know if I could hit someone in the lobby from my room at the end of the hall. (its almost exactly 10 yards by my estimate)

    Anyway, I was intrigued that she, being who she is, would reconsider her position on me and my co-worker bringing our guns to work. Maybe there's a little hope in the world after all.
    My AR is 7.62x39, so that if/when we get invaded, I can shoot their ammo back at them!
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    deephouse
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 3858

    I think the only way this could possibly be legal would be for her to

    1. Fire you.
    2. You get your guard card (not sure if it's called that)
    3. Find a job w/ a security company
    4. Have her hire that company
    5. Then you get assigned to her store.

    Even then, that seems ....just a little pre-meditated.
    LOL.
    Last edited by deephouse; 02-20-2013, 11:14 PM.

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    • #3
      Sabian722
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 613

      sounds like she wants your D... i kid, i kid...

      but that's pretty legit... how hard is it to get a permit as an armed guard?

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      • #4
        ehair
        Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 430

        Sucks that hard working business owners and employees have to worry about this kind of stuff. Thanks for sharing.

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        • #5
          Ninety
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 4062

          Aren't you allowed to carry in private business? Take her to the range.. and it's nice to hear someone being open minded ... I guess it's a little different when its your arse on the line huh?
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          • #6
            sharxbyte
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 2448

            Originally posted by deephouse
            I think the only way this could possibly be legal would be for her to

            1. Fire you.
            2. You get your guard card (not sure if it's called that)
            3. Find a job w/ a security company
            4. Have her hire that company
            5. Then you get assigned to her store.

            Even then, that seems ....just a little pre-meditated.
            LOL.
            Why do you say so? It's legal to posses a gun at work if the owner gives you permission to have it on the premises, if I read THIS correctly. As for premeditation, it's not unlawful to plan a course of action in a self defense situation. If someone comes into my work and threatens me, my boss, or co-workers, then I am in fear for my life or another person's life and If I should happen to kill the intruder, then it would be stopping a felony-in-progress where someone was in fear for their life. Do I hope it happens? Hell no! Do I want to be prepared in case something does? Definitely.
            Last edited by sharxbyte; 02-20-2013, 11:35 PM.
            My AR is 7.62x39, so that if/when we get invaded, I can shoot their ammo back at them!
            sigpic

            Originally posted by Falstaff
            Where is this ammo "Black market" he speaks of? Do they have .223 in stock?
            My Home-Made Recurve Bow Thread


            Own An 80%? CLICK HERE!


            Kevin de Leon, on minority women and profiling.

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            • #7
              slipknot95758
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 653

              I am pretty sure a private business can say it is ok for you to carry while on the premises. Just how the owner can carry. I also am pretty sure it would need to be in a lock container unloaded while being transports from the car onto the property

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              • #8
                sharxbyte
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 2448

                Originally posted by slipknot95758
                I am pretty sure a private business can say it is ok for you to carry while on the premises. Just how the owner can carry. I also am pretty sure it would need to be in a lock container unloaded while being transports from the car onto the property
                exactly. Once I get my CCW, this will be mute, because I'll be able to carry to and from work as well.
                My AR is 7.62x39, so that if/when we get invaded, I can shoot their ammo back at them!
                sigpic

                Originally posted by Falstaff
                Where is this ammo "Black market" he speaks of? Do they have .223 in stock?
                My Home-Made Recurve Bow Thread


                Own An 80%? CLICK HERE!


                Kevin de Leon, on minority women and profiling.

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                • #9
                  myk
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 5955

                  Originally posted by sharxbyte

                  Anyway, I was intrigued that she, being who she is, would reconsider her position on me and my co-worker bringing our guns to work. Maybe there's a little hope in the world after all.
                  What is it with these 'Libtard/left winger hypocrites?

                  I'm still friends with a guy I met in junior high. Somewhere along the way he went full on left-wing, democrat, tree-hugging, anti-military, anti-America, most importantly ANTI-GUN, and I went the complete opposite.

                  Fast forward to now, he makes a lot of money but says he can't find a house in a "good" part of Anaheim/LA. So get this, he tells me that he'll charge me super-low rent in his house if I move up there and provide protection using my "experience" with guns. I told him that I would be more than happy to share what little gun knowledge I have so that he could learn to defend himself, but in not so many words he doesn't want to get his hands dirty.

                  So just like every other holier-than-though, anti-gun, Obama card carrying snob, he can tell us how we're all mucking up the planet with our neanderthal ways and our evil guns, but when it comes time for protection they have the nerve to call on us? How does someone live with that stark, illogical level of hypocrisy in their heads without exploding?

                  I think Danny said it best:
                  Originally posted by DannyInSoCal
                  The half of us paying for everything - Will not defend the other half - With the guns they hate - From the tyrants they love. Good luck liberals...
                  Last edited by myk; 02-21-2013, 12:04 AM.


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                  • #10
                    HKMadness
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 5262

                    Antis get a reality check when they're life is in danger and the police aren't right there next to them at all times. I knew this family of antis (wife's friends). The mom's car was broken into and they thought it was some guy that had been following her around. All of a sudden she feels the need to go gun shopping
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                    • #11
                      appagohm
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 1123

                      I carry at work, in my own business, and i let my friends and family carry whenever they come to by store. It is legal, as far as walking to your car.
                      my parkinglot is attached to my business, no issues there.
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                      • #12
                        lilro
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 2374

                        Originally posted by deephouse
                        I think the only way this could possibly be legal would be for her to

                        1. Fire you.
                        2. You get your guard card (not sure if it's called that)
                        3. Find a job w/ a security company
                        4. Have her hire that company
                        5. Then you get assigned to her store.

                        Even then, that seems ....just a little pre-meditated.
                        LOL.
                        Huh? If she owns the property, all of that is bypassed.
                        There is no justification for the public servant police to be more heavily armed than the law-abiding public they serve...Unless...the government's intention is to be more powerful than the people.

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                        • #13
                          deephouse
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 3858

                          Originally posted by lilro
                          Huh? If she owns the property, all of that is bypassed.
                          Just an assumption on my part - but i stand corrected!

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                          • #14
                            deephouse
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 3858

                            Originally posted by sharxbyte
                            Why do you say so? It's legal to posses a gun at work if the owner gives you permission to have it on the premises, if I read THIS correctly. As for premeditation, it's not unlawful to plan a course of action in a self defense situation. If someone comes into my work and threatens me, my boss, or co-workers, then I am in fear for my life or another person's life and If I should happen to kill the intruder, then it would be stopping a felony-in-progress where someone was in fear for their life. Do I hope it happens? Hell no! Do I want to be prepared in case something does? Definitely.
                            Ah, didn't know about that link. Good to know - but now it all makes sense. Maybe i read your initial post too quick...

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                            • #15
                              deephouse
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 3858

                              Just curious, if you guys leave work... say you're walking her to her car parked on the street (off property). The perp presents himself and threatens you both. That becomes an issue then? Just throwing that out there...

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