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  • mecam
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 4049

    15 year old boy killed by OPD



    (03-19) 16:28 PDT Oakland - -- Oakland police shot and killed a boy who aimed a sawed-off rifle at them Wednesday as they were patrolling an East Oakland neighborhood known for gang activity, a police spokesman said.

    The boy was shot at about noon on the 7900 block of Rudsdale Street, said Officer Roland Holmgren, a department spokesman. Relatives identified him as Jose Luis Buenrostro and said he was 15 years old and lived in Oakland.

    The shooting was the second fatal officer-involved shooting in Oakland since Friday, when police shot and killed a 70-year-old man pointing a replica pistol at them near the Eastmont police substation on 73rd Avenue.

    "Any time an officer has to use deadly force it's extremely serious," Holmgren said.

    Three officers from the Oakland police gang unit were in a patrol car in the neighborhood not far from the Oracle Arena and McAfee Coliseum when they noticed a young man walking on the sidewalk attempting to conceal a large object in his sweatpants, Holmgren said.

    "He looked in their direction and they could see it was a gun," Holmgren said. "He got the gun from his pants and pointed it at the officers, who in turn used their firearms to subdue him, striking him multiple times."

    The youth was taken to a local hospital, where he died from his wounds. The police declined to confirm the young man's age or identity Wednesday evening, saying his next of kin still needed to be notified.

    Relatives, friends and neighbors of Buenrostro who gathered Wednesday evening at 79th Avenue and Rudsdale Street, gave a starkly different account of the incident and questioned officers' level of force.

    They set out candles, roses and spilled beer on the sidewalk as part of a makeshift memorial for the 15-year-old whose blood still stained the sidewalk. Neighborhood children rode by on scooters and mothers pushed babies in strollers.

    "He was walking down the street and the cops stopped and 'bam-bam' shot him up without even telling him anything," said Jesse Gonzalez, who said he was Buenrostro's cousin.

    "We want to see the gun he supposedly had," said Claudia Zepeda, another cousin, whose voice faltered with emotion. "I want to see his thumbprints on it. Why didn't they talk to him, why did they have to kill him?"

    Holmgren said officers appeared to act the way they were supposed to when dealing with an armed assailant.

    "There's a common misconception about the use of force, especially with all the crime-related TV shows, that you can shoot an armed suspect in a leg or arm," Holmgren said. "Officers are trained to aim for the center mass, to use force that will immediately stop the threat. If they shot him in the hand, he still could have fled or, for all officers knew, sprayed a residential area with bullets."

    Buenrostro was a student at an Oakland charter school focused on aviation and wanted to become a pilot, Gonzalez said. He said he didn't know Buenrostro to have any affiliation with gangs, nor to carry any weapons.

    "He was a calm guy," Gonzalez said.

    Buenrostro lived in the neighborhood with his parents and several siblings.

    The three officers who fired shots were placed on paid administrative leave, pending the outcome of the investigation, which is standard procedure in officer-involved shootings. The shooting occurred in a working-class predominantly black and Latino neighborhood less than three blocks from Acorn Woodland Elementary School.

    "This happened in broad daylight right around the corner from an elementary school," Holmgren said, adding that no one else was injured. "Who knows what would have happened had the officers not been there? They put themselves in these situations not because they want to go out and take somebody's life, but because they are trying to prevent some of the madness on the streets we've been seeing lately."

    But nothing takes away the fact that a tragedy occurred, Holmgren said.

    "A young person has lost his life," he said. "It's a tragedy for a neighborhood, for a family. It's also a tragedy that a teenager was walking around in the middle of the day with a rifle. I can understand the pain and anger right now."

    Dottie Harnell, who has lived for 55 years in the neighborhood where Wednesday's shooting happened and is known by neighborhood children as "Granny," said she was saddened to come home Wednesday to learn one of her charges was dead.

    "They could have shot him in the leg," said Harnell, who knew Buenrostro. "A life is gone now for his family and his siblings."

    E-mail Christopher Heredia at cheredia@sfchronicle.com.

    This article appeared on page B - 2 of the San Francisco Chronicle
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  • #2
    USN CHIEF
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 11540

    It's sad that the boy was killed, but lessons learned... Don't point your gun at the Po Po...
    Originally posted by tankerman
    I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
    Originally posted by Douglas711
    Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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    • #3
      Soldier415
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2007
      • 9537

      Originally posted by harmoniums
      Absolutely, I've refused sale before.
      My gut is good for two things, making poo and spotting crazy
      Originally posted by bwiese
      Do not get your legal advice from Forest Rangers or Sheriffs: that's like getting medical advice from your plumber.

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      • #4
        rorschach
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 4405

        Originally posted by Granny
        "They could have shot him in the leg"
        Yeah, maybe they would have hit his femoral artery. Idiot.

        Well as quick as others are to pile on coppers whenever theres a shooting without knowing all the facts, I'm gonna go ahead pile on the kid with the gun. He had it coming.
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        • #5
          DedEye
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2006
          • 8655

          "He was walking down the street and the cops stopped and 'bam-bam' shot him up without even telling him anything"
          These posts are Fiction. They do not contain legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer. Any resemblance to real persons are pure coincidence. These posts may pose an inhalation hazard, reading can be harmful or fatal. No statements made on this forum are meant to represent any corporate or business entity, others, or myself. Especially not myself.

          Stop duping answers, help expand the FAQ.

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          • #6
            thefifthspeed
            Veteran Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 2674

            They set out candles, roses and spilled beer on the sidewalk as part of a makeshift memorial for the 15-year-old whose blood still stained the sidewalk.
            If I had a friend that died, last thing I would do is pour a 40 on the ground. Never understood that homie mentality.

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            • #7
              Two Shots
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 2022

              The shooting was the second fatal officer-involved shooting in Oakland since Friday, when police shot and killed a 70-year-old man pointing a replica pistol at them near the Eastmont police substation on 73rd Avenue.

              Cops shot them.........Duh
              Pouring a beer was not started by Homies, We did this back in the 70's for friends that died and I'm sure it goes further back then us.
              Last edited by Two Shots; 03-20-2008, 5:58 PM.
              "I have a love interest in every one of my films - a gun."
              - Arnold Schwarzenegger

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              • #8
                USN CHIEF
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2007
                • 11540

                It's amazing how people become "Good/Model citizens" after they been killed or die.. This idiot kid decided to point a gun at someone and he got killed, he deserved to be killed...
                Originally posted by tankerman
                I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
                Originally posted by Douglas711
                Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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                • #9
                  Danield
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1880

                  i agree its sad that a life was lost. but what the hell did he expect? a hug? a warm welcome? of course the friends and family all jump on the cops, which is bs. why was a 15 year carrying a gun in his pants? to go target shooting?

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                  • #10
                    AaronHorrocks
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 1944

                    People have also been shot for wearing black gloves!

                    ...or in one case I heard on the LA freeway, a man in a disable vehicle took off his black sock, and put it on his hand to work on some parts under the hood. An LEO pulled up behind him, as the stranded motorist moved to the side of the car, he was shot multiple times and died on the spot.

                    There are good cops, and there are criminals with badges. I am always very careful, because I don't want to get shot by either!
                    Originally posted by nick
                    Are there any times when you don't have a loaded firearm within reach?
                    Originally posted by M. Sage
                    I support violence against communists.

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                    • #11
                      mason1800
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 856

                      Originally posted by USN CHIEF
                      It's amazing how people become "Good/Model citizens" after they been killed or die.. This idiot kid decided to point a gun at someone and he got killed, he deserved to be killed...
                      No one desrves to die, no matter how much of an idiot they are. Death is just a consequences of dumb decisions.
                      "A good friend will come and bail you out of jail in the middle of the night....
                      but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, damn we ****ed up."

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                      • #12
                        leelaw
                        Junior Member
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 10445

                        So is this one of those threads with an intentionally misleading title, or did the OP just mistype "Teen Shot And Killed By Oakland PD After Pointing Firearm At Officers"?

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                        • #13
                          rorschach
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 4405

                          Originally posted by mason1800
                          No one desrves to die, no matter how much of an idiot they are. Death is just a consequences of dumb decisions.
                          I beg to differ. Scott Peterson deserves to die. OJ Simpson deserves to die. Richard Ramirez deserves to die. Need I go on???
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                          Mailed to LASD Hall of Justice: 6/27/2022 received:6/28
                          Check cashed: 8/22/2022
                          Livescan: 4/22/2023 DOJ 4/22 FBI 4/23 Firearms 4/26
                          Call for interview: 5/24/2023 Interview: 5/31/2023
                          PTT: 8/21/23 Training submitted 8/27/23
                          Call for pickup 10/12/23 Pickup: 11/8/23

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                          • #14
                            scootergmc
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 4089

                            Well, at least this Oakland death will not go unsolved...

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                            • #15
                              jimx
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1223

                              Originally posted by leelaw
                              So is this one of those threads with an intentionally misleading title

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