Overpriced Items on CalGuns - Poll

[razorx]

It is at best described as "opportunistic" some of the pricing that I have seen. However, if someone is too lazy to check gunbroker or davidsoninc for a reality check then I don't see need to interfere.

It is a little annoying the gratuitous "bump" cliques operating here, only the starter of the thread should bump but whatever.

If this really bothers someone then this is just one of many in a long personal list of carefully maintained bothersome "things". Let it go and start trimming down the list.

Note, this does not apply to why americans can't move their arse out of the left lane...

[chickenfried]

I didn't vote in your poll. The use of the word "rape" or similar exaggeration is inappropriate. Seller sets a price it's up to the buyer to decide if they're willing to pay the price or not. No one is twisting their arm.

There sure are a lot of whiny threads complaining about some facet of the marketplace sections lately. Maybe Kes will just decide to get rid of it...

[Deuce]

Supply and demand. I'd pay more for an item if I really wanted it and couldn't get it anywhere else. No one buys a gun on impulse without the proper research.

[Blue]

A man will pay $20 for a $10 item he needs. A woman will pay $10 for a $20 item she doesn't need simply because its on sale.

It never hurts to shoot the guy a PM with an offer if you're so upset about his price.

[Fjold]

Another liberal poll.

Word it so that people's choices are limited to the least distasteful option and therefore favors your preconceived idea of what's right and wrong.

Do you work for the Democratic National Commitee?

[mike100]

Kind of off topic...Before I voted on this poll, I clicked " show poll results" and it did, but listed everybody's username under each category for which they voted. After i voted, that went away.

sort of a v-bulletin bug I guess or a setting that should be fixed. Voting is supposed to be anonymous or it skews the results.

[chickenfried]

This was set up as a public poll, you're supposed to be able to see how people voted.

[Hoop]

STFU, it's none of your business if CalGunners are raping fellow CalGunners!


Odd choice of words...

But I've always believed thread crapping should not be allowed. Pumping up someones for sale sale thread should also not be allowed by the same reasoning.
As always, you can't save the world.

Yeah I agree. It's an imperfect situation, but oh well. Know what something is worth and avoid the morons who sell for over retail.

If I see a thread with 1-2 pump-you-up replies I avoid it because that's a sure sign it costs too much.

[1SGMAT]

First off. FJold, great post I was thinking almost the same thing.

Next. below is the statement I just made on my thread that emc002 has seemed to crap, uh, i mean comment on.

Just a heads up to any prospected buyers. There is a thread in general discussions about overpriced items in the For Sale sections. emc002 has made this statement

"""E.g. there's an item for sale I just looked at in the Marketplace that I could buy brand new (no tax since it's out of state & free shipping since it's over $200) for significantly less than the buyers asking. The worse thing is that somebody posted within that thread that they fond the same thing on EBay for WAY more than the seller's asking as some sort of proof it's a good deal. It's not!"""

I thought I priced this item fair and left a little barter room (in thread I specify make a reasonable offer near my price) for local calgunners. I just want to say, before making an offer please PM emc002 first and ask for his info to get the best deal you can. i do not want to screw over my fellow calgunners. as for the implication that Semi Auto Sam may have been in cahoots with pumping up my add; just stupid. look at the dates I posted this probably about a year ago and that comment was made then but I have never met Sam (though he seems like a great guy from his posts) and it seems he has great respect on this board and I hope these comments will not compromise that respect. I will go one step further. If emc002 shows me a legitimate add for a new case such as mine I will sell it to the first guy that PM'd me an offer this morning that I turned down.

If my integrity has been questioned then this is where I stand with it. I believe people should be courtoeus and if something is clearly way out there in price than PM the seller and refer him to something closer to market value and if he wants to stick with his price than so be it. As FJ stated in his post there is no vote for any respectful solution.

[chickenfried]

As long as the item is in the condition as described in the ad and it's a legal transaction why would you question the integrity of the seller? It says more about the busy body sticking their nose in other people's business than the seller.

So the people that voted in favor of thread crapping won't mind if we keep an eye out for their FS threads?

[tankerman]

The market decides what something is worth.

If someone is stoopid enough to overpay for something that's there problem.

Most overpriced items just don't sell period. Half of the guns I see here are overpriced, folks have a tendency to think what they own is somehow more special than the same item own by someone else and therefore worth more.

Some are just not realistic "2000 rounds down the pipe of an XD and they are selling it for $25 under regular retail not even under sale price. Or the guy that spends $5000 buying every expensive gadget know to man for his AR, breaks down what he paid for everything the knocks off a couple of hundred bucks and wants to sell for $4800, it ain't gonna happen. There is no long term value in a gun like that, they end up being parted out to many buyers or just don't sell.

I can buy a Winchester that's 50 years old and constantly going up in value or an overpriced AR that's only going to go down in value (except maybe a Colt or an original Vietnam era gun). If I were going to buy that AR I would look for a good price, maybe somewhere in the neighborhood of %40+ off cost. Where as the Winchester is worth the money, if it's the right model/condition.

Folks that add a "California Premium" to the sale price can take a hike.

If you really want to sell a gun then lower the price till someone buys, otherwise it may never sell or it may be for sale for a long period of time until you find the right sucker(for modern guns), buyer(for rare classics).

[caduckgunner]

Another liberal poll.

Word it so that people's choices are limited to the least distasteful option and therefore favors your preconceived idea of what's right and wrong.

Agree 100%

[dustoff31]

Another liberal poll.

Word it so that people's choices are limited to the least distasteful option and therefore favors your preconceived idea of what's right and wrong.

Do you work for the Democratic National Commitee?

Great post.

How about we add this question to the poll..."How do you feel about someone who willingly buys something that they know they can get for much less somewhere else and then crys about being overcharged."

And a big +1 on Cavtrooper's post as well.

[rkt88edmo]

So let me summarize:
1 - Poster knows thread crapping is wrong
2 - Poster cannot overcome the urge not to crap in the thread

Conclusion:
Poster should wear diapers or not visit the Marketplace.

Buyers - by virtue of surfing Calguns are, IMO, able to do a fairly quick price check on items via the interwebs and therefore need no extra warning regarding overpriced items.

The moderators DO CARE when people are MISREPRESENTING items for sale in order to drive the price up, whether intentionally or not.

[M. Sage]

So let me summarize:
1 - Poster knows thread crapping is wrong
2 - Poster cannot overcome the urge not to crap in the thread

Conclusion:
Poster should wear diapers or not visit the Marketplace.

He was nice enough to compile a list of like-minded individuals for us, too! So it ain't a total loss.