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  • losgatoscc
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 29

    Originally posted by cpatbay
    They replied my email right away and I am on my way there to ick up my lower.... Cross my fingers!
    so they are only replying to people with guns/lowers dros cleared? and not with people with stuff in dross jail? they pretty bad dude

    i have three lowers there, they should have called me back so i could have it sent to mad dog
    youll have to pry these guns from my cold dead hands...

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    • cseabass
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 967

      Originally posted by losgatoscc
      the doj does the audit. the atf does not do the audit...they are only there for investigations and action. please follow up on how things work before getting personal. the doj will tell them when i audit is happening, if the atf does a audit so to speak, its because the doj found a irregularity or the atf has knowledge of illegal activities within, then yes they do show up randomly


      Hey i dont know you nor do i have a dog in this fight.

      the ATF audits you onece every 2-3 years, once a year if you naughty. straight up. no illegal activities. ive been doing this for years and i can tell you that's how this works.

      I wish VA the best as a fellow gun dealer, Connor, if its who i think it is has always been stand up with me, even when we worked together in the past.

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      • cseabass
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 967

        Originally posted by losgatoscc
        first of all as regulation and insurance each store can conduct each transfer as it deems. if a store has a certain person registered to give a handgun dros, he and only he can do it. if the store goes over each employee and gets them authorized to do the transfer than its a policy of the store...as i stated before...if you have any questions on the fll transfers of long gun or short guns, go to rogers relics, and talk to them about it. i had a long convo on how only the person certified for the handgun dros - whom is allowed to do the handgun dros. some stores have authorization within themselves to train and allow other employees to do handgun transfers. ive also been to alot of gun stores, and ive seen this more than once. its okay if youve worked at a gun store in the past, but i do speak of experience, and no - nobody dirty can work at a gun store doing transfers. technically all you have to be is okay to handle guns as you said. yes this is true. but each person responsible for a transfer must be cleared and also deemed fit by the insurance company. not just by the state.

        if a store owner is a employee he can carry a ffl like what your example was. if the store owner carries more than one ffl and or location, and or a corporate licensed ffl, he the owner is not able to do any transfers due to conflict of interest limitations. if the store owner of VA owns a ffl for the address and has a limited liability license then he is just a owner, not a person authorized to do a ffl. now how stores you worked for, or how things were in your scenario - doesn't mean how things are. yes some stores have a single account and immediate employees do some transfers. but technically each person doing a transfer must be approved by the doj. you cant just get hired on by someone who has a ffl and he would show you the ropes, its not how things work.

        i hope u can understand the atf lies, yes it does, they didn't come to do the audit, there was a discrepancy with some paperwork or items, that had a red flag...then they came for a "audit" the doj is the ones responsible for conducting the regular audits. on the spot audits arent audits so to speak. its when theres a issue with paperwork or certain nfa items, the atf gets involved. if you dobt this, call both agency yourself and ask them the question. i did.

        its okay buddy we all love guns hahahaha



        ok, there is no cert for running a hand gun... there is a cert required to administer an HSC test or sign off. the Employee COE thing is DOA.

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        • losgatoscc
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 29

          Originally posted by cseabass
          Hey i dont know you nor do i have a dog in this fight.

          the ATF audits you onece every 2-3 years, once a year if you naughty. straight up. no illegal activities. ive been doing this for years and i can tell you that's how this works.

          I wish VA the best as a fellow gun dealer, Connor, if its who i think it is has always been stand up with me, even when we worked together in the past.
          thank you for sharing. yes connor has always been good to me and my friends that ive refered
          youll have to pry these guns from my cold dead hands...

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          • losgatoscc
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 29

            Originally posted by cseabass
            ok, there is no cert for running a hand gun... there is a cert required to administer an HSC test or sign off. the Employee COE thing is DOA.
            that might be what i did make a mistake on
            youll have to pry these guns from my cold dead hands...

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            • cseabass
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 967

              i put a call into him and left him a msg, im gonna send him a text and let him know he may want to address this post also.

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              • cpatbay
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 1631

                Got my lower. They are definitely under in the process of getting close down. But they do have a guy there to have in jail stuffs release to customers. That's all they are doing right now. The guy there is not an employee of VA.
                NRA Lifer

                No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason
                for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort,
                to protect themselves against tyranny in government - Thomas Jefferson


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                • FLAWLS1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 930

                  Originally posted by cpatbay
                  Got my lower. They are definitely under in the process of getting close down. But they do have a guy there to have in jail stuffs release to customers. That's all they are doing right now. The guy there is not an employee of VA.
                  Wow, that's crazy. I wonder what happened.

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                  • cpatbay
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 1631

                    Bad business practices? Too much red ink? Who knows!!!
                    NRA Lifer

                    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason
                    for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort,
                    to protect themselves against tyranny in government - Thomas Jefferson


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                    • Arkangel86
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 994

                      Is Felipe still one of the owners??
                      Guns dont kill people, I kill people

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                      • losgatoscc
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 29

                        I just went to va and spoke with the employee auditer for a while. Great constant customer service. Please be kind. When i was there the phone didnt apot ringig with hate messages and he has thousand emails to go through. He gladly sent my stuff to metal dog tac at nocharge. The guy therebis a prev empkoyee and he is there withbhis auditer. I gathered prev management was ibvolved in something savory so they cut all enda and began a internal review and restructure. Valkyrie arma is not goig to dissapear. The guy was super nice and handled everythong profeshionaly. Sorryfor typos. Im mobime.
                        youll have to pry these guns from my cold dead hands...

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                        • redline
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 261

                          Originally posted by sully007
                          Just got a call from a guy named Paul, he said he is the auditor and that I can pick up my firearm on 12/6 after 3 pm. The shop will still be closed. I have to knock and he will open for me. He said there is some restructuring going on, but after they are done the shop will be open for business as usual.
                          Originally posted by cpatbay
                          Got my lower. They are definitely under in the process of getting close down. But they do have a guy there to have in jail stuffs release to customers. That's all they are doing right now. The guy there is not an employee of VA.
                          So...which is it?

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                          • ColdDeadHands1
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 3391

                            Originally posted by losgatoscc
                            I just went to va and spoke with the employee auditer for a while. Great constant customer service. Please be kind. When i was there the phone didnt apot ringig with hate messages and he has thousand emails to go through. He gladly sent my stuff to metal dog tac at nocharge. The guy therebis a prev empkoyee and he is there withbhis auditer. I gathered prev management was ibvolved in something savory so they cut all enda and began a internal review and restructure. Valkyrie arma is not goig to dissapear. The guy was super nice and handled everythong profeshionaly. Sorryfor typos. Im mobime.
                            Good info but did you type that with your nose?


                            "Let me guess... This isn't about the alcohol or tobacco?"

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                            • sully007
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1612

                              Originally posted by redline
                              So...which is it?
                              Those are the words Paul spoke to me.

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                              • losgatoscc
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 29

                                Originally posted by ColdDeadHands1
                                Good info but did you type that with your nose?
                                yes i used my long nose. my cell and my fat fingers dont quite work together very well. and editing on the cell phone while parked wasnt working
                                youll have to pry these guns from my cold dead hands...

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