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  • #46
    Dragunov
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1953

    Originally posted by joefreas
    None of her business but she is just asking because all too often kids get killed with parents guns.

    There was a poll on here about how CalGunners with kids stored their guns. I was shocked at how many didn't keep them locked up.
    Shocked? Really? When I lived in Kalifornia, My daughters made sure their weapons were locked, loaded and next to their bed every night, and unloaded and locked up in the safe before going to school every day. I have no need to keep weapons from my kids.

    They have both been asked about guns by the doctor sometimes during check ups. They have both told the doctor that it's none of her business. Strange that I've never been asked, but that's how they do it. Get the kid away from the parent and ask the kid questions. Both of my kids have told the Dr. to "knock it off with the questions, and just do the check up". Last time I told their doctor that asking my kids "personal" questions, is unacceptable. The Doctor said "Yeah, I got that impression from both of them". That was the end of the questions. You just need to inform them that you're the parent, not they.
    Last edited by Dragunov; 09-05-2012, 4:27 PM.

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    • #47
      Dragunov
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 1953

      Originally posted by Alan Block
      She is too small to have a gun. Should I get her one when she is a little older?
      Nah! Never too small.

      Politically incorrect guns for small children.

      Here ya go!
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      Last edited by Dragunov; 09-05-2012, 4:36 PM.

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      • #48
        451040
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 2169

        Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
        It's a Public Health and Safety thing.
        Originally posted by CaliforniaLiberal
        It's not a political thing ...

        Thanks for that.






        Originally posted by psssniper
        Just one shotgun

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        • #49
          CBruce
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 1993

          Originally posted by OleCuss
          You know? Assuming parents are too stupid to secure dangerous items and keep their kids safe is insulting.

          You need to make sure the parents know that the kid is going to start doing things like rolling over, crawling, walking, etc. so that they know what to watch for. But parents know that babies should not play with guns or have access to medicine bottles.

          And if you want to be sure the parents know? Give them a handout which lists the common dangerous items and how to secure them and your kiddo. You don't have to pry into their home inventory.
          And yet, the statistics are pretty clear about it. There are a lot of irresponsible people in the world and you shouldn't feel insulted if your health care provider is trying to get a comprehensive picture of what your household is like and what dangers it might present.

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          • #50
            Hopalong
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 2436

            I'd tell them they were right up there with Mom and apple pie

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            • #51
              J.D.Allen
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 2340

              DUDE! You're in Yuma? We gotta go shooting!

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              • #52
                marcusrn
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Mar 2010
                • 1176

                Psssniper, can that kid actually shoot or is he just really good looking?
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                • #53
                  Quser.619
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 777

                  Guns, no. I do have assault weapons with the shoulder thingy that goes up though
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                  • #54
                    Demonicspire
                    Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 197

                    I've never been asked this one by a doctor. It seems kind of irrelevant tbqh, maybe its more relevant in a high crime area. I can understand questions about drinking, smoking, exercising and what have you because those actually refer to chemical intake. I don't see how your having or not having a gun affects the information they need to treat you. They won't admit it, but its purely political, owning guns isn't like living near a highway or something; exposure does not cause health problems to develop. the health problems caused by guns tend to be very sudden, and kind of un-preventable by any physician's advice not made of kevlar.

                    It does seem very kid focused, you know this severe, and I suppose very understandable fear we have in regards to our children, but I honestly don't see the relevance. It's like we're all idiots, and they have to educate us on what's best for our own children, to be shown the error of our ways by the oh-so brilliant MD.

                    I actually have a bone to pick with MDs in general as a guy who does biological sciences research and work. If you want to hear a litany of complaints, ask any PhD who has ever hard to work with an Oncology MD on cancer research. Doctors make the _WORST_ scientists imaginable. they have no understanding of the empirical process, and they're so used to using tests other people designed for them, they can't design their own experiments to save their lives.

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                    • #55
                      PerfectReset
                      Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 474

                      Originally posted by Fortified Peasant
                      I can agree with that, but there are a lot of dangerouse items im my home like a set of large knives in a block on my kitchen counter but they did not ask me about those.
                      As long as it remains private/protected by HIPAA or similar for statistical analysis I think tell them the exact number. I'd like to see correlated safety statistics personally.
                      To be, or not to be: that is the question:
                      Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
                      The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
                      Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
                      And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;

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                      • #56
                        yellowfin
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 8371

                        As many as the average American, more or less.
                        "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
                        Originally posted by indiandave
                        In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
                        Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.

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                        • #57
                          jwkincal
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1621

                          Originally posted by Demonicspire
                          I actually have a bone to pick with MDs in general as a guy who does biological sciences research and work. If you want to hear a litany of complaints, ask any PhD who has ever hard to work with an Oncology MD on cancer research. Doctors make the _WORST_ scientists imaginable. they have no understanding of the empirical process, and they're so used to using tests other people designed for them, they can't design their own experiments to save their lives.
                          Medicine != Science

                          Don't ever forget it. Don't let other people forget it either.
                          Get the hell off the beach. Get up and get moving. Follow Me! --Aubrey Newman, Col, 24th INF; at the Battle of Leyte

                          Certainty of death... small chance of success... what are we waiting for? --Gimli, son of Gloin; on attacking the vast army of Mordor

                          Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!
                          I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
                          --Patrick Henry; Virginia, 1775

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                          • #58
                            Dragunov
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1953

                            Originally posted by CBruce
                            And yet, the statistics are pretty clear about it. There are a lot of irresponsible people in the world and you shouldn't feel insulted if your health care provider is trying to get a comprehensive picture of what your household is like and what dangers it might present.
                            Why wouldn't you feel insulted or invaded? What goes on in your household is none of their business. Their job is to do checkups, diagnose illness and treat it. Not to pry into your families day-to-day life and business.

                            My kids pediatrician kept hacking on us about getting them a "Guardasil"(HPV) vaccination. We finally told her to knock it off, it's not gonna' happen. She then waited for my wife and I to leave the room, and during Miss "K"s physical exam, started on HER about the vaccine, trying to tell Miss "K" that her (Doctors) mother ended up with HPV at 70 years of age and said that her mother was a Saint. Never had any relations outside of marriage.

                            Miss "K" quickly reminded the Doctor that even though her mother may have been a Saint, apparently her father was not. That put an end to the questioning. This is the same Doctor Miss "V" put in her place over the gun question. We have fired the doctor and now have a different one.

                            Some Doctors wait til the parent is out of the room, and start questioning the kids, so make sure your young'uns understand OpSec.
                            Last edited by Dragunov; 09-13-2012, 10:19 AM.

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                            • #59
                              Dragunov
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1953

                              Originally posted by Akers
                              Should I tell the Nurse that my two year old actually has his own AR build in process?
                              Probably not a good idea. My younger one has both a loaded AR by her bed and a S&W .38 special on her nightstand. Both within easy reach. My older one keeps a loaded 12g shotgun with #00 buckshot by her bed within easy reach. Probably not a good idea to tell that to the doctor either.

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                              • #60
                                A-J
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 2582

                                Originally posted by Sakiri
                                I actually read about a doctor that terminated a kid from their care because the parents refused to answer that question.

                                American Association of Pediatrics or whatever seems to think that it's a good idea for you to disclose how many firearms you have in your house so that they can call child protective services on you because you're a bad parent.

                                There was something I was reading not too long ago about trying to get them to stop doing that because it serves no purpose.
                                I believe it was FLorida where the legality of this was/is being questioned. And of course the various agencies are arguing that it's a health and safety issue and their "responsibility" to inform families about the "dangers of firearms" and all that. The other side is claiming (rightly) that the "information" being spouted is incorrect and serves no purpose beyond fear mongering. I agree.
                                It was not a threat. It was an exaggerated response to an uncompromising stance. I was taught never to make a threat unless you are prepared to carry it out and I am not a fan of carrying anything. Even watching other people carrying things makes me uncomfortable. Mainly because of the possibility they may ask me to help.

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