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  • #61
    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44094

    While the Federal ban started in 1994, one could still buy many types of AWs in Ca until 1-1-2000. Then, there was a +/-4 1/2 year dry period where only FAB10s and Evan's rifles were being sold. After that, the OLL thing started. The first mag locks were nothing more than nylox nuts holding mag catches tight in place. The BB, and other mag locks which use tools to release mags, evolved about the time that OLLs were becoming a bit more noticable to the public.

    For all you hates out there, I love my FAB10s and PARA-1. They are novelty guns that have a certain curiosity factor and are a constant reminder of what we've gone through in the last few years. They were the cutting edge in their day and helped get us whee we are today. Don't knock them. Besides, those of us with early FAB10s and a bit of forthought were able to register them as "50 BMG rifles". I still kick myself for only registering one FAB10.
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    • #62
      sonnyt650
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      • Dec 2009
      • 586

      What's really odd is I have no idea what the Federal ban looked like though it was in place for the entire country for a period of time. Nobody outside this state has any idea of the depth of the crap we law-abiding citizens put up with, hopefully that changes and California.gov gets a slapdown by the Supreme Court.

      Oh and I didn't shoot my registered AR much at all, hell I forgot how to mount a scope for a while there.

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      • #63
        colossians323
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        • Oct 2005
        • 21637

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        While the Federal ban started in 1994, one could still buy many types of AWs in Ca until 1-1-2000. Then, there was a +/-4 1/2 year dry period where only FAB10s and Evan's rifles were being sold.
        Is evans still around? Remember the cost of buying one of his sealed well rifles? Wasn't it around $2,500.00?
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        • #64
          CSACANNONEER
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44094

          Originally posted by sonnyt650
          What's really odd is I have no idea what the Federal ban looked like though it was in place for the entire country for a period of time. Nobody outside this state has any idea of the depth of the crap we law-abiding citizens put up with, hopefully that changes and California.gov gets a slapdown by the Supreme Court.

          Oh and I didn't shoot my registered AR much at all, hell I forgot how to mount a scope for a while there.
          The Federal ban has a lot to do with what guns were available to be purchased and registered as AWs in Ca between 1994 and 1-1-2000. Think about all the ARs with only two evil features or the MAC90s with thumbhole stocks. Also, the price of +10 round mags went through the roof in the entire country way before the Ca high cap ban. The federal ban was a major influence on the Ca firearms market even if you didn't realize it.

          Try going to some oter states and telling them that their laws are less restrictive than Ca, you'll get laughed at. Some states still have that stupid "pre ban" and "post ban" AW thing going. Some states did not allow it's subjects to keep their legally aquired "high cap" mags. They had to turn them in or send them out of state. Some states have maximum mg capacities for hunting. Some states require registering all handguns. Some states require every gun owner to be "registered" and carry a FOID Card. If one is in a coma and can not renew their FOID Card before it expires, they become an instant felon. I'm not saying that CA has the greatest gun laws but, we don't have the most restrictive. We just have the largest population who is subject to stupid restrictions.
          Last edited by CSACANNONEER; 05-28-2012, 8:42 AM.
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          • #65
            CSACANNONEER
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44094

            Originally posted by colossians323
            Is evans still around? Remember the cost of buying one of his sealed well rifles? Wasn't it around $2,500.00?
            He passed away a few years ago. I remember seeing his LISTED UNDER THE AW BAN rifles selling for over $2K with DOJ's blessing. I'm still trying to figure out how a LISTED AW is not legally an AW???
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            • #66
              forgiven
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2008
              • 5214

              I'm still pissed off at this AW law. Won't be happy till the royalties heads roll

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