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Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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People don't understand the difference between engineering something and designing something. What they did was design a gun, not engineer it.So in the latest episode where Chris attempted to build the AR. At the end they went on and on about how much engineering went into the gun, and custom work, blah blah. Just curious, what type of engineering do they put into these things? Is it more than just ordering the parts and throwing it together? Or are they just trying to make the show sound more interesting. Just curious"If a man hasn't found something worth dying for, he isn't fit to live." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
"You have to be willing to swing your nuts like a deadblow hammer to put these jackasses in their place." - AJAX22
"The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry." - William F Buckley Jr.
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That's what the BATFE would like to know.
Apparently, these were machine guns. That's why it's such a big deal.
It's not like ten 1911s went out the back door without 4473s.- Rich

Originally posted by dantoddA just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.Comment
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Sadly SonsofGuns does a lot of damage to gun owners.
Think about the anti gunner who might stumble into the show, perhaps with an open mind:
They see low IQ individuals who are able to create brand new firearms that are more powerful than anything ever seen previously, then the anti's fears are proven valid as SonsofGuns employees over dramatize the firepower of every 'creation' they handle by adding hidden explosives or hidden cans of gasoline to make amazing explosions.
Now think about the opinion of this open minded anti gunner.....
Yeah, television just proved:
*Idiots can build incredibly powerful weapons.
*No special tooling or equipment are required to build incredibly powerful weapons.
*Every gun causes massive explosions.
The predictable results:
*Stronger fear of guns.
*More regulations to prevent home builds (AR from parts, AK builds, 80% builds)
*More regulations to prevent/control firearms on public lands.
*More regulation of shooting ranges due to the high explosives problem.
No, SonsofGuns is not good for us, it is actually a better tool for the Brady Campaign.

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Maybe "Fast and Furious part 2"
Since they are being so dramatic,
How bout Will finds out he has lung cancer and wants to leave a nice fortune for his daughter and his "in the closet" future son in law. So he and Vince get together and start selling AW's for the Cartels and they love his "Blue Ice Desert AR" so much, that they build him a state of the art Gunsmithing Lab under a Laundry facility. Oh and we can finally meet Will's brother Bill, who is a BATFE agent.
NOW THERES A SHOW!!!
Last edited by gl0ckc0ma; 01-22-2012, 11:49 AM.Comment
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i really do like their logo and wouldn't mind buying a stripped lower but i wouldn't buy one of their rifles for the same reason i wouldn't buy a bike from OCC or paul Jr designs:
over priced for what it is.
oh, and i don't think that the way that they are portrayed on their show is quite accurate, they can't be that stupid (at least i hope not) a lot of what you see has to be editing and over dramatization for TVLast edited by psubond; 01-22-2012, 12:36 PM.Comment
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Im suprised that no one noticed what the real problem was, when it would not fire more than one time. The Adams arms piston setup they used was set on single shot every time it stopped shooting, ask me how i know!!!
No i didnt do that. But i did read up on the function of how an AA piston works. (Plus i have one that works awesome) And what position the valve needs to be in for what mode of shooting.
I dont think it had anything to do with the Buffer.
Nuck-O-Heads!!!!
I do enjoy the show for intertainment value.......Comment
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Representing gun owners as irresponsible and unsafe really does little to help our cause. I agree it is a show that "normalizes" gun ownership but it reinforces too many negative stereotypes. American Guns is better only in that, aside from in the shop, guns are generally handled much more safely and it doesn't portray gun owners as illiterate, uneducated Neanderthals. This is why I really enjoy Top Gun. Top Gun shows a diverse group of firearms enthusiasts who consistently show professionalism and respect for the weapons they are using. Sure, there are the occasional a-holes on the show but it is never expressed though the guns and the guns are always treated respectfully and both as tools and delay weapons.
The shows are a continuum with Sons of Guns on the wrong and and Top Shot on the right end.Comment
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im sorry but they do mill and make some of there stuff. if it is so eay to do so why dont some of you just get a CNC and the know how and do it yourself...im not trying to be a d*ck but aside from the scripted BS in the show, those guys im sure have a lot of know how and smarts...i enjoy the show as i do american guns, BUT i hate the scripted lines and what not. as far as the building goes, i like itComment
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Sorry, Steph is not hot. Joe and Charlie are the "legal" owners. I watch it because I like guns. Other than that....meh. American guns, worse than sons of guns IMO. I'd rather watch the military channel best combat rifles over and over.#blackriflesmatter
<4 years till retirement, can't wait to leave this state
California, where all of the good stuff is banned, registered, regulated or prohibited, yay.....
Law abiding firearm owners have no chance in this state.
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