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  • #46
    2DoorImpala
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 4698

    How does one provide receipt after 12+ years? What if my dad had standard mags he got during the 80's. How would he prove it, since they are in storage for many years?


    Also, would his son be able to use them?

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    • #47
      HK4113
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 1296

      [QUOTE=Fot;7234428][QUOTE=ls2monaro;7234039] So me and the goon squad hit the house and get his computer, bank statements, credit card bills, and receipts for high capacity magazines.

      Awesome you just found proof that I purchased replacement parts for that busted up mag I found prior.
      Exactly..

      Originally posted by 2DoorImpala
      How does one provide receipt after 12+ years? What if my dad had standard mags he got during the 80's. How would he prove it, since they are in storage for many years?


      Also, would his son be able to use them?
      You don't have to prove it, the prosecutor has to prove you didn't have those mags.

      His son cannot use them because he didn't own them. But there is nothing to say his son didn't own his own, because there is no age restriction to buy magazines.

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      • #48
        Oceanbob
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2010
        • 12720

        3 weeks ago at my favorite Gun Range...ON TARGET..

        My daughter was born in 1997. I gave her this GLOCK 33 round magazine as a gift.......she has decided to keep it forever.

        Her she is running her 1992 Glock 17 (with barstow barrel by Irv Stone himself)......

        Bang Bang...

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        Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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        • #49
          secret.asian.man
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 744

          Originally posted by jak77
          Maybe they were LEO?

          I agree with your point, I'm just playing the devils advocate here.
          ATF is cracking down on LEO who don't comply with gun laws with their Personal firearms.

          If guns are outlawed, then an outlaw I'll be...
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          • #50
            ls2monaro
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 601

            Originally posted by Scream_4637
            I guess I am asking what the probable cause is for the search of the house for receipts and credit card statements. Would the leo just tell the judge that they observed the person using a large capacity magazine in a handgun that did not exist prior to 2000 and that the magazines for that gun were also not available prior to the year 2000?

            Your scenario seems possible for a handgun such as the XDM but would not hold up for other handguns that were available prior to 2000.

            Do you have a scenario that would fit for a Handgun that was available prior to 2000 with large capacity magazines?
            You have the right idea, it would never work for a gun in production prior to 2000.

            I also have never personally seen anyone charged solely for the magazines, but I have seen it used in conjunction with assault weapons and gang related stuff all the time. As oceanbob said, it's fun to speculate about the nuances of the law

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            • #51
              Scratch705
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 12530

              Originally posted by 2DoorImpala
              How does one provide receipt after 12+ years? What if my dad had standard mags he got during the 80's. How would he prove it, since they are in storage for many years?


              Also, would his son be able to use them?
              can't be passed on. but if it was found, then it is legal.
              Originally posted by leelaw
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              • #52
                secret.asian.man
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 744

                Originally posted by chim-chim7
                I bring all my preban mags to the range that is crawling with LEO's. Never once have I had a problem. They don't even look twice.
                if you look like you have nothing to worry about, they probably assumed that you were LEO too and weren't going to make an *** out of them self for questioning another LEO especially off duty.

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                • #53
                  Fot
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1611

                  Originally posted by Oceanbob
                  3 weeks ago at my favorite Gun Range...ON TARGET..

                  My daughter was born in 1997. I gave her this GLOCK 33 round magazine as a gift.......she has decided to keep it forever.

                  Her she is running her 1992 Glock 17 (with barstow barrel by Irv Stone himself)......

                  Bang Bang...

                  Brave man showing pics of your daughter.. Best get a big stick Neil will be here in 5...4...3...2...
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                  • #54
                    zfields
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 13658

                    Originally posted by Reductio
                    Then you don't understand the statue of limitations. Believe me, these issues have been hashed out over and over and over...

                    Actually, the easy answer is to move out to free America like I did.
                    Out of all the parts of TX, you moved to hippyville.
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                    • #55
                      Merc1138
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19742

                      Originally posted by secret.asian.man
                      ATF is cracking down on LEO who don't comply with gun laws with their Personal firearms.
                      The ATF doesn't care about CA magazine laws. What are you talking about? Or did you just overhear that in a random gun shop somewhere?

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                      • #56
                        Scream_4637
                        Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 130

                        From what I can tell with all of the posts thus far, using large capacity magazines in a legal manner at a range does not provide probable cause nor a practical means for leo's to investigate how the person obtained the magazine.

                        Bragging about having a large capacity magazine may be annoying, however, you can probable bet that the person bragging about having them may also brag about how they obtained them. If a UC leo is at the range, they would do better IMO to wait for the bragger to slip up and confess to an illegal activity, if the way they obtained the magazine was illegal.

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                        • #57
                          Merc1138
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19742

                          Originally posted by ls2monaro
                          You have the right idea, it would never work for a gun in production prior to 2000.

                          I also have never personally seen anyone charged solely for the magazines, but I have seen it used in conjunction with assault weapons and gang related stuff all the time. As oceanbob said, it's fun to speculate about the nuances of the law
                          Idiots have been nailed by CA DOJ for bringing large capacity mags back across the state line into CA before, it's even been posted about on this forum.

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                          • #58
                            GettoPhilosopher
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1814

                            I was more concerned when I saw a guy shooting at the range with a 7.5" AR Pistol....with a stock on it.

                            *Facepalm*

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                            • #59
                              Merc1138
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19742

                              Originally posted by GettoPhilosopher
                              I was more concerned when I saw a guy shooting at the range with a 7.5" AR Pistol....with a stock on it.

                              *Facepalm*
                              That wouldn't be a pistol then. Maybe he has a RAW SBR? There are people in this state that have fun stuff like that legally.

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                              • #60
                                Oceanbob
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 12720

                                Originally posted by Scream_4637
                                From what I can tell with all of the posts thus far, using large capacity magazines in a legal manner at a range does not provide probable cause nor a practical means for leo's to investigate how the person obtained the magazine.

                                Bragging about having a large capacity magazine may be annoying, however, you can probable bet that the person bragging about having them may also brag about how they obtained them. If a UC leo is at the range, they would do better IMO to wait for the bragger to slip up and confess to an illegal activity, if the way they obtained the magazine was illegal.
                                Exactly...

                                Funny how most people get themselves in deep do-do...because of their own big mouth.

                                My motto is STFU.

                                haha
                                Bob
                                May the Bridges I burn light the way.

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                                Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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