High capacity magazines at the range

[Merc1138]

Just leave it alone, we don't have to do it... it's dead Jim. There's no reason to...





Already too late I guess.

[aermotor]

@stix213 I get you.

Thanks for the laugh haha.

[Scream_4637]

A lot of people are bashing the OP here. But come on, he has a point. Young kids who have more than likely imported or manufactured them in the state illegally. Don't give him such a hard time. Anyone can lie and explain away how they "got" them, and yes possession and use is absolutely legal, but it's the steps that they used to get to the possession and use that leave them as an open target.

Everyone says mag cap doesn't matter and no one has ever been charged for having them blah blah blah. Are you willing to be the guinea pig? Purchase rebuild kits online, leave a paper trail, use them very obviously and stupidly at a range or on BLM, wait for an arrest and we'll see how well Calguns can defend you. When they have your bank records and subpoena for the exact order, you're hosed. Is this far fetched? F yes it is. Is it impossible? No.

Dude is making a very poignant observation.

I have a lot of dumb friends with guns who couldn't care less about the high cap mag laws, and that's their prerogative guess. But I find staying on the legal path will keep you out of trouble. It's not worth losing my gun rights over.

I don't understand why you would assume that young kids have only obtained their magazines illegally. This discussion thread has provided several examples of how a young person can legally have large capacity "standard" magazines. I don't disagree that there are people out there who do illegally come into possession because they could care less about the high cap mag laws much like you say your friends don't. You have no way of knowing without actually asking the person how they obtained the magazine. Because of this, I don't think it is necessary to state that you must use some form of discretion to use the magazine. I go under the assumption that somebody at the range who has a large capacity magazine is using it legally and obtained it legally. It serves me no purpose to believe otherwise without additional information on how they were obtained. People on this thread have "bragged" about having large capacity magazines and it doesn't bother me so why would some "young" kids at the range bother me by bragging about their large capacity magazines?

You also state that its the way they obtain the magazines that leaves them as an open target. Again, how do you know how the "young" kids at the range obtained the magazine? Discretion is not necessary if nothing illegal has/is happening and to assume that something illegal has happened based on the age of the user is incorrect as reasons for young people legitimately having large capacity magazines have been given throughout this thread.

[ls2monaro]

I have to say though, I'm mag ban exempt and typically go to the range with a bunch of other guys who are mag ban exempt. I can't count how many f-tards approach me and do the whole 'wink-wink, hey buddy i see your mags' BS. i also can't believe how many guys ask me to sell them my standard capacity mags at the range.

I am exempt as well, and I have also have a few RAW's to top it off. Just last week I had a guy offer me $100 for each of my 22 round .40 glock magazines. I just said no thanks and went on my way. I have been going to lytle creek for 20+ years but I haven't gone lately since they have stupid no hi cap rule. Sure I can show my badge to the RO's and forest service guys, but I don't want to put that out there unless absolutely necessary.

[ls2monaro]

As far as the magazines are concerned, I am not talking about ar-15 or glock magazines that were given to the kid when he was one year old on december 31, 1999. I am talking about a handgun first manufactured after the year 2000 (example : xdm, m&p, etc.) How can you tell me you legally have magazines that hold more than ten rounds for a gun that was not even made when the law went into effect.

Here are the options, you "found" them on BLM land, you illegally assembled them 37 months ago, or you purchased them as a LEO.

[rugershooter]

Are you positive? Nothing illegal about keeping the couple of standard cap mags you found while out on BLM land.

I said "could" be illegal. Importing a high cap (not a rebuild kit) into the state is illegal. Manufacturing high cap mags is illegal.

There are several ways "young kids" acquire high caps, both legal and illegal. The bottem line is there has to be some actual proof that the person broke the law within 3 years of the investigation, and the burden of proof is on the DA. Even if someone illegally got them, there's not a damn thing the DA could do if the statute of limitations has transpired.

[rugershooter]

As far as the magazines are concerned, I am not talking about ar-15 or glock magazines that were given to the kid when he was one year old on december 31, 1999. I am talking about a handgun first manufactured after the year 2000 (example : xdm, m&p, etc.) How can you tell me you legally have magazines that hold more than ten rounds for a gun that was not even made when the law went into effect.

Here are the options, you "found" them on BLM land, you illegally assembled them 37 months ago, or you purchased them as a LEO.

YOU can't unless the person tells you or you witness them acquiring them illegally. So there is absolutley no reason whatsoever to believe that they're breaking the law.
People actually do find high cap mags on BLM land. Don't believe that can happen? Go down to a BLM shooting area and look around for a while. People leave gun cases, mags, boxes of ammo and other gun related things there.

[Librarian]

Have we learned anything in 112 posts that was not in the link posted early on -- http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=387409 ?

No.

Everybody has been polite and reasonable and this horse is indeed dead.