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  • safewaysecurity
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2010
    • 6166

    Concealed Carry Cop Killers - VPC video

    New video from the Violence Policy Center.... these guys are the biggest whackjobs there are. There organization is so unprofessional it's ridiculous.



    Last edited by Librarian; 09-13-2011, 5:29 PM.
    Originally posted by cudakidd
    I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
    ^
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    Untamed1972
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2009
    • 17579

    Oh geez.....so out of the 100s of 1000s MILLIONS of permit holders they find the handful that went bad?

    Shall we list the number of innocent civilians accidentally or mistakenly killed by police every year?
    Last edited by Untamed1972; 09-13-2011, 3:24 PM.
    "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

    Quote for the day:
    "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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    • #3
      safewaysecurity
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2010
      • 6166

      Originally posted by Untamed1972
      Oh geez.....so out of the 100s of 1000s of permit holders they find the handful that went bad?

      Shall we list the number of innocent civilians accidentally or mistakenly killed by police every year?
      More like MILLIONS of permit holders. If you took all the permit holders in America and gave them their own country it would have the lowest crime rate and I believe homicide rate in the world. And yes police kill far more people. Did you cast that last bit at the end of the video? They are not even attempting to hide their true agenda of banning guns outright.
      Originally posted by cudakidd
      I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
      ^

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      • #4
        MatrixCPA
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 173

        I wonder how many law-abiding people have been killed by police officers since 2007.


        The second amendment of the United States Constitution is not a "loophole". -- California State Senator Doug La Malfa

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        • #5
          MatrixCPA
          Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 173

          Originally posted by Untamed1972
          Shall we list the number of innocent civilians accidentally or mistakenly killed by police every year?
          Bah, you beat me to it!


          The second amendment of the United States Constitution is not a "loophole". -- California State Senator Doug La Malfa

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          • #6
            Capt.Dunsel
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 1199

            Too bad it doesn't tell the whole story. Would like to know why they were shooting at each other.

            And yeah , BART police seem to be able to shoot straight , look at their recent history.
            Bweise says "I have to say the situation was not at all helped by 22 yr old former Airsoft douches who kept touting here, "But possession is not illegal!" "

            Fighting on the internet is like being in the special Olympics , everybody wins but your still retarded.

            Librarian " Calguns is not a 'general discussion board".

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            • #7
              Decoligny
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2008
              • 10615

              Originally posted by safewaysecurity
              More like MILLIONS of permit holders. If you took all the permit holders in America and gave them their own country it would have the lowest crime rate and I believe homicide rate in the world. And yes police kill far more people. Did you cast that last bit at the end of the video? They are not even attempting to hide their true agenda of banning guns outright.
              A quick search of the InterWebNetCloud showed that of those states that had statistics available (16 didn't), there are approx 6.25 MILLION current CCW holders in the United States. This is a low estimate as the other states have more just didn't list the number.

              Allowing that the states that didn't provide statistics could reasonably provide another 750,000 CCW holders to the total (statistically it is more like another 2 million), that would bring the total to 7 MILLION CCW HOLDERS.

              The video presented showed 7 instances of a CCW Holder "allegedly" shooting a police officer.

              That would make this a real life statistic of the "ONE IN A MILLION".

              What is the phrase used to indicate something virtually NEVER HAPPENING?

              "The chances are ONE IN A MILLION!"
              Last edited by Decoligny; 09-13-2011, 3:35 PM.
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              • #8
                racerguy180
                Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 182

                Last time I checked concealed carry is not for the protection of the police, its for the people that the police work for...US!
                Stop noise pollution, use a suppressor! Silence is golden.


                I am not a single issue gun voter, if someone wanted to attack any portion of the Bill of Rights, I would be voting against them. Unfortunately the only RIGHT that seems to be under attack is the 2nd!

                "Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
                George Washington

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                • #9
                  Untamed1972
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 17579

                  So who is gonna make the counter "Open-carrying LEO citizen killers" video?

                  By statistical comparison I think it would quickly show that COPs are statistically mroe dangerous to innocent citizens then CCW holders are to COPs.

                  Then where does their arguement go?
                  "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

                  Quote for the day:
                  "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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                  • #10
                    jaandrade3rd
                    Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 169

                    The video lends to the fallacy that all CCW/LTC holders are cop killers. But how many cops have been killed from non CCW/LTC holders? Would those killers be less inclined or unable to kill a cop if they didn't have a CCW/LTC? I don't know the circumstances of those cops that were killed but I'm sure the fundamental reason they were killed because the killer was protecting their life. Albeit, as absurd as the idea is I have to believe there was some motivation behind the killing.

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                    • #11
                      GrizzlyGuy
                      Gun Runner to The Stars
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • May 2009
                      • 5468

                      Originally posted by Untamed1972
                      So who is gonna make the counter "Open-carrying LEO citizen killers" video?

                      By statistical comparison I think it would quickly show that COPs are statistically mroe dangerous to innocent citizens then CCW holders are to COPs.

                      Then where does their arguement go?
                      We won't know because as soon as we make that truthful video, we'll be banned for cop bashing.
                      Gun law complexity got you down? Get the FAQs, Jack!

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                      • #12
                        nrakid88
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3285

                        These video's are emotional powerful, and cater to the crowds of under thinkers in society.

                        Yet that fact makes them extremely politically powerful...

                        I want to try my hand at this propoganda war. Who is with me?
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                        • #13
                          nrakid88
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                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3285

                          Originally posted by GrizzlyGuy
                          We won't know because as soon as we make that truthful video, we'll be banned for cop bashing.
                          NICE!
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                          5.56 vs. 308? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=267737
                          Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                          You are not a mall ninja. You are a defender of mall ninjas.

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                          • #14
                            Casual_Shooter
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                            • Sep 2006
                            • 11733

                            Originally posted by Untamed1972
                            Oh geez.....so out of the 100s of 1000s MILLIONS of permit holders they find the handful that went bad?

                            Shall we list the number of innocent civilians accidentally or mistakenly killed by police every year?
                            Or doctors....
                            Guns, dogs and home alarms. Opponents are all of a sudden advocates once their personal space is violated.

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                            • #15
                              jdberger
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                              CGN Contributor
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 8944

                              VPC's research isn't deserving of the name. IIRC, a quick review of the Concealed Carry Killers mentioned in their written report demonstrates that a large majority of the folks mentioned never had Licenses to Carry. Many were initially charged with crimes and then charges were dropped. Some others were acquitted.

                              It's a bunch hooey.
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