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  • #16
    Mad Jax
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 611

    What class of sworn peace officer is jesse65?
    Originally posted by myk
    Kestryll is Chuck Norris' Calguns screen name...
    Originally posted by MQUnlimited
    My dilemma is keep it or sell it...either way, she's pissed...thinking about placing a cape around her neck and yelling "now you're super mad!!!"

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    • #17
      bohoki
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 20825

      bullet button = fixed magazine

      fixed magazine over 10 = assault weapon if you want an assault weapon why have bullet button

      to me it is like taking a lie detector test and lying against your own interests

      the only people doing that are looking for attention

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      • #18
        Ford8N
        Banned
        • Sep 2002
        • 6129

        Originally posted by robairto
        Why is it that some folks find it their responsibility to go around policing other adults about the LAW and telling a RSO that someone may not be compliant. It's no ones business unless a LEO makes it theirs. If a person is so compelled to tattle so to speak why not just address the person they think is an offender? I have RAWs and BB ARs and I enjoy dropping a magazine and popping a new one in with virtually no distruption. I also see no need in monitoring others. They are adult, let them live their informed or uniformed lives. Just my .02..
        That is one of the main reasons I HATE going to the range. To many snitches that don't know what they are talking about and it just creates drama. I never have that problem way out in my secret shooting spot.

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        • #19
          chesterthehero
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 2070

          "snitching" is a crappy way to look at it.. no one is informing someone that they are unintentionaly rockin an unregistered AW so get them in trouble or to make themselves look better... its to keep them from getting in trouble.. not because anyone cares about what happens to someone else but because everytime someone gets busted for an unregistered AW it gives the anti crowd another reason to put an end to ALL firearms..
          if people at your local range are constantly getting poped for unregistered AWs your range will get fined till it goes out of business.. thats one less place to shoot.. not to mention all the bad press that will go along with it.. my .02
          Boy the way Glen Miller played, songs that made the hit parade, guys like us we had it made, those were the days, and you know where you were then, girls were girls and men were men, mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again, didn't need no welfare states everybody pulled his weight, gee our old Lasalle ran great, those were the days!

          who wants a fishtank?

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          • #20
            darksands
            Senior Member
            • May 2008
            • 710

            Also, if you decide to make your rifle featureless, remove that bullet button. For some reason, featureless build + bullet button = illegal

            LEO cannot build their own AW. They must purchase it from a RAW dealer.

            Correct me if I am wrong as this is what I have gotten so far...
            All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

            "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." ---George Orwell on a BBC broadcast, April 4, 1942

            "Fast is fine. Accuracy is final. You need to learn to shoot slow, real fast." ---Wyatt Earp

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            • #21
              sevensix2x51
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3835

              Originally posted by darksands
              Also, if you decide to make your rifle featureless, remove that bullet button. For some reason, featureless build + bullet button = illegal

              LEO cannot build their own AW. They must purchase it from a RAW dealer.

              Correct me if I am wrong as this is what I have gotten so far...
              a featureless rifle with bullet button is not illegal.

              its doesnt make much sense, but you could totally build it that way.

              the problem lies when a 11+rd.mag is introduced.

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              • #22
                darksands
                Senior Member
                • May 2008
                • 710

                Ah, so a featureless rifle with a BB cannot have a 11+rd.mag but once the bullet button is removed then you can have a 11+rd.mag if you are a LEO or had the magazines pre-ban?
                All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing

                "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." ---George Orwell on a BBC broadcast, April 4, 1942

                "Fast is fine. Accuracy is final. You need to learn to shoot slow, real fast." ---Wyatt Earp

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                • #23
                  sevensix2x51
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3835

                  correct. ca pc 12276.1(a)(2) states "a semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than ten rounds." remove the bullet button, and the magazine is no longer fixed. and featureless rifles do not fall under any other descriptions in 12276.1(a)...

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                  • #24
                    Exile Machine
                    No longer in Business
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 9551

                    Originally posted by darksands
                    you can have a 11+rd.mag if you are a LEO or had the magazines pre-ban?
                    You could also legally borrow large capacity mags from a buddy who stays within an "accessible vicinity" for example going with you to the range or competition.
                    Manufacturer of CA AWB Compliance Products from Oct 2009 to Nov 2018

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                    • #25
                      Army
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3915

                      So, some of you would rather a fellow shooter be let to founder in ignorance, and possibly become some politicians pawn in another all out effort to take more of our rights, or more possibly getting that particular range closed due to too many ''dangerous assault rifles'', according to the local Police on the 6:00 news.

                      Keeping each other legally safe, and legally compliant seems, to me, to take precedent over some small minded fear of being a ''snitch''.
                      "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself...A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."......Cicero

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                      • #26
                        TrailerparkTrash
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4249

                        Originally posted by chesterthehero
                        "snitching" is a crappy way to look at it..
                        Not it's not. A snitch is a rat. A rat is a snitch. Simple as that. We all know what a snitch is. It can't be sugar coated.
                        Originally posted by chesterthehero
                        ...if people at your local range are constantly getting poped for unregistered AWs your range will get fined till it goes out of business.. thats one less place to shoot.. not to mention all the bad press that will go along with it.. my .02
                        So with that rationale, I take it you're saying it's okay to "snitch" someone off??? Let's face it, CA guns laws suck. If I saw someone with an "unregistered" black rifle, I wouldn't give a crap! I'd say, have fun, but watch your back! There are SNITCHES everywhere!!!!! I could care less that he/she is excercising a freedom and "former right" we Californians ONCE enjoyed a few years ago!
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                        • #27
                          Mad Jax
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 611

                          You can have a large capacity magazine as long as its pre-ban????? This would make me happy....Does anyone have literature to back this up?
                          Originally posted by myk
                          Kestryll is Chuck Norris' Calguns screen name...
                          Originally posted by MQUnlimited
                          My dilemma is keep it or sell it...either way, she's pissed...thinking about placing a cape around her neck and yelling "now you're super mad!!!"

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                          • #28
                            Subotai
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11289

                            Originally posted by Mad Jax
                            You can have a large capacity magazine as long as its pre-ban????? This would make me happy....Does anyone have literature to back this up?
                            Yes, as long as you owned them prior to I think 1990. I'm sure others will chime in here. Check the Calguns Flowchart. I use a Solar Tactical grip wrap on an AK and use 30-rounders.
                            RKBA Clock: soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box (Say When!)
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                            • #29
                              steelrain82
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 3683

                              I thought it was prior to 2000

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                              • #30
                                cannon
                                In Memoriam
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 8589

                                Originally posted by chesterthehero
                                "snitching" is a crappy way to look at it.. no one is informing someone that they are unintentionaly rockin an unregistered AW so get them in trouble or to make themselves look better... its to keep them from getting in trouble.. not because anyone cares about what happens to someone else but because everytime someone gets busted for an unregistered AW it gives the anti crowd another reason to put an end to ALL firearms..
                                if people at your local range are constantly getting poped for unregistered AWs your range will get fined till it goes out of business.. thats one less place to shoot.. not to mention all the bad press that will go along with it.. my .02
                                So we should all run around snitching to RO's and LEO's so as to get people busted and thus causing bad press in order not to have bad press?

                                Perhaps since we don't know who has registered AWs and who does not. Maybe we should all mind our own business and let others mind theirs. Now if "someone" really has the need to get into someone elses business. Perhaps they could approach the shooter instead of running to mommy or daddy.
                                ^^ Said by some lunatic on the internet

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