Idiot DFG!

[ke6guj]

I'm curious about the flowchart. I doubt an LEO who thinks he is in the right is going to care one way or another what some "flow chart" says. If they decide your gun is illegal, it's gone and will take a lawyer to get it back.

right, an LEO who is absolutely sure that he is correct may not listen to you, or look at your supporting documentation, but someone who isn't absolutely sure about the legality might be swayed by your info, or may take a step back to think twice before proceding.

I also wonder if, at some point in the future, if you give an officer the actual law quotes that show that he is in the wrong to procede with the arrest/confiscation, that it could trigger a personal 1983 suit against him.

[greasemonkey]

I'm curious about the flowchart. I doubt an LEO who thinks he is in the right is going to care one way or another what some "flow chart" says. If they decide your gun is illegal, it's gone and will take a lawyer to get it back.

When presented with a Flow Chart and the SacPD memo, which cites plenty of PC, and you demand to have their supervisor present (does this apply with DFG?), I imagine that would be pretty compelling info that *maybe* he should look into it a bit more before he follows through with an arrest/confiscation.

[1lostinspace]

DFG is LEO

Hmmm I did not know they had the same power.

[SJgunguy24]

Hmmm I did not know they had the same power.

Blue lights and a gun is law enforcment in California.

[Untamed1972]

Hmmm I did not know they had the same power.

They are sworn CA LEOs with all the same statewide authorities and power as any other sworn LEO in CA.

They can also stop you for speeding and write you a ticket.

[1lostinspace]

Wow that sucks bro... I hope it works out for you, it's funny I was telling guys here that it takes one idiot to loose your AR or AK.

Good luck

[paul0660]

Hmmm I did not know they had the same power.

It's authority, not power.

[Zachs300zx]

So when are we going to see a lawsuit as a civil rights violation? The LEO stripped this man of his 2nd amendment rights while isolated in the California wilderness???
He wasn't arrested because false imprisonment has consequences.

[Cyc Wid It]

If the information was presented accurately, I'm sure "the right people" will get it taken care of. Granted it will still be a hassle, but it's something.

[SJgunguy24]

So when are we going to see a lawsuit as a civil rights violation? The LEO stripped this man of his 2nd amendment rights while isolated in the California wilderness???
He wasn't arrested because false imprisonment has consequences.

If the LEO truly though it was an AW he would have arrested the OP and towed his vehicle. An AW charge is a felony, he would have to arrest him.

[CSACANNONEER]

DFG are state LEOs just like CHP.

[Untamed1972]

So when are we going to see a lawsuit as a civil rights violation? The LEO stripped this man of his 2nd amendment rights while isolated in the California wilderness???
He wasn't arrested because false imprisonment has consequences.

This trend of "confiscation w/o arrest" is becoming a bit of a troubling pattern. It's almost like they're purposely not arresting because they know that an arrest requires alot more justification, paperwork and scutiny. So to avoid the scutiny they just take the gun. But if someone is truly in felony posession of an unregistered AW, I think there needs to be some forced scutiny on why they would confiscate the gun but not make the felony arrest.

Almost just seems like a gun grab in hopes the guy will not be willing to deal with the hassle to get it back. Perhaps some costly litigation will be needed at some point to stop this seeming abuse of authority.

I really would like an explanation over this confiscation w/o arrest question. It's almost like they know it's gonna be a stretch to make an AW charge stick, so to avoid that scrutiny they just confiscate which in essence keeps that matter "in house" within the Dept. rather then having it actually go to court and be scrutinized by a judge.

If they just confiscate then it essentially becomes a matter of ones attorney having to deal with the Dept. where procedures are less defined vs. the courts where that are more strict rules.

[zman]

Without giving too many details, where in CA did this happen so the rest of the hunters on Calguns can be aware?

+1

Tagged for outcome.

[TurboChrisB]

I know it's here....I've seen it...I just spent 10 mins search for the SacPD memo without sucess....anyone got the link?

[Purple K]

Ahhh! I see another CGF smackdown coming!