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  • #46
    freakshow10mm
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 3061

    Originally posted by ar15barrels
    Dias or real auto sear works the same way in burst or in full.
    The sear is the hammer RELEASE timing mechanism that makes sure the carrier is forward before the hammer is released for each shot.
    The 3rd burst parts just interrupt the hammer's cycle by release of the disconnector via the ratchet.
    I know how it works. I have a machine gun right here.



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    • #47
      gn3hz3ku1*
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 4276

      Originally posted by freakshow10mm
      I know how it works. I have a machine gun right here.
      showoff!! i wish ca was that conservative

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      • #48
        DDRH
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Mar 2008
        • 2756

        nice!

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        • #49
          freakshow10mm
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 3061

          Being a Class 2 SOT helps. I made this machine gun back in March of 09 because I was bored and had nothing else to do. So I made a machine gun. Had the receiver built. Cost me $13 in parts and 15 minutes of my time.

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          • #50
            sv_1
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 525

            Fascinating machines. How is the timing for the DIAS done? I don't quite understand it from that gif^

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            • #51
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 56916

              Originally posted by sv_1
              Fascinating machines. How is the timing for the DIAS done? I don't quite understand it from that gif^
              On a real sear gun, you just bend the sear until the sear releases at the proper location.
              The proper location is determined with gauge pins between the front face of the bolt carrier and the rear face of the barrel extension.

              On a Dias gun, you file on the sear.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #52
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 56916

                Originally posted by freakshow10mm
                I know how it works. I have a machine gun right here.
                I'm sure you understand it.
                You just made a comment above that would make most people think a DIAS worked different than a regular sear gun.
                That's why I mentioned they work the same.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #53
                  Vanguard
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 7235

                  Being fully automatic does not make a weapon a "machine gun".

                  There is such a thing as an automatic rifle.

                  Sorry, this is like a "clip" vs. "magazine" peev for me.
                  Last edited by Vanguard; 10-18-2009, 10:36 PM.
                  "We're surrounded.....that simplifies our problem."
                  -Chesty Puller-

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                  • #54
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 56916

                    Originally posted by Vanguard
                    Being fully automatic does not make a weapon a "machine gun".
                    It does in the eyes of the BATFE.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • #55
                      freakshow10mm
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 3061

                      Originally posted by Vanguard
                      Being fully automatic does not make a weapon a "machine gun".

                      There is such a thing as an automatic rifle.

                      Sorry, this is like a "clip" vs. "magazine" peev for me.
                      Well I'll tell ya what, if I make a fully automatic rifle and on the Form 2 write "full auto" or "automatic rifle", the ATF will reject it unless it states specifically "machine gun".

                      On my site I use the terms suppressor and automatic weapons.

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                      • #56
                        Vanguard
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 7235

                        I hear ya. I didn't say the BATF wasn't retarded.
                        "We're surrounded.....that simplifies our problem."
                        -Chesty Puller-

                        "Don't forget that you're First Marines! Not all the Communists in hell can overrun you!"
                        -Chesty Puller-

                        -Dimitri, I'm sorry they're jamming your radar and flying so low, but they're trained to do it. You know, it's, it's initiative!-

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                        • #57
                          supersonic
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2007
                          • 5845

                          Originally posted by SJgunguy24
                          Um ..........yeah.....well OK let's play Who wants a felony?

                          No No No that is not the kind of stuff we need at Calguns
                          Calm down. Nothing wrong with curiosity & information with no ill intent.

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                          • #58
                            Stormfeather
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 7738

                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            There is a ratcheting pawl on one side of the hammer that causes the disconnector to be defeated for 3 hammer drops.
                            The 4th time the hammer comes back, the pawl releases the disconnector which grabs the hammer.
                            You have to release the trigger to un-set the disconnector.
                            This releases control of the hammer to the trigger.
                            The next time you pull the trigger, the hammer falls 3 more times until the disconnector grabs it again.
                            Releasing the trigger anytime during the burst will cause the hammer to rest against the trigger again even if it was only after 1 or 2 shots.
                            I think that the next trigger pull will cause a short burst as you would be using up the remaining 1 or 2 shots on the pawl before it disconnects again.
                            Having never fired an M16A2 or M4, I don't know if the pawl resets or not after a short burst.
                            exactly correct.
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