.45 acp Vs. the human jaw.

[odysseus]

Yeah, this is no knock on the .45....the guy had poor shot placement. Period. Had he actually shot himself in the head....he would be dead. Probly true also if he had shot himself point blank in the chest....

The .45ACP is a killer...and this guy was just too dumb to kill himself efficiently.

I agree. He shot himself in the jaw and cheek. Had it gone into the nugget and was a hollow point, I wouldn't even want to imagine that.

This guy got off lucky. Perhaps he can turn his life around and get help.

[M. Sage]

Sure a .45 isn't magical instant death like it was laced with poison, but there have been PLENTY on the receiving end of that round in a few major wars who sure didn't argue with it too well.

... unless you lace yours with poison.

Just sayin'...

[jdogg2000]

I agree. He shot himself in the jaw and cheek. Had it gone into the nugget and was a hollow point, I wouldn't even want to imagine that.

This guy got off lucky. Perhaps he can turn his life around and get help.

You might just be right, I took care of a guy who actually put the gun in his mouth with the barrel pointing upward and blew the front of his face off. He ended up surviving, and he told me that he's a born-again Christian and loves life now. Despite all the pain and disfigurement (he's had dozens of surgeries and still his face looks really awful), he's so glad to have survived. I never would've guessed it, but people sometimes really do turn their lives around after events like this.

[Greg-Dawg]

Limpwristing.

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

lol thats notihng. try seeing a picture of a guy who had used his mouth in order to crimp a blasting cap. well he bit to hard and looked like the fraking predator.

[1lostinspace]

Last Friday night we got a 24 year old male that decided he was going to end his life with a .45 to the head. He placed the gun to the bottom of his jaw, aiming up, and pulled the trigger. He was about 1 inch too far to the left and blasted a golf ball sized hole through his chin and OUT his mouth. I wish there were no HIPPA/confidentiality laws and I could post up some pics from his chart, but there are so I can't. It was an amazing wound, the bullet ripped a hole through his jaw and took away a lot of tissue, bone, and teeth.
Now for the weird part, he never lost concsiousness, and came in yelling and screaming at everyone to go away and let him die! He seemed pretty unimpressed with the .45's stopping power. His tox screen was negative, and he only had a small amount of alcohol on board.
I know many people in the gun world think that the .45 acp is a death ray and that any hit from it is a fight stopper, however this shooting shows me that it is still "just" a handgun round and not final word in stopping power.
Be safe,
Peter

I use fragmenting rounds , RBCD everyone calls it snail oil rounds.
I am sure it does not do what the company claims, but I have chronographed it at over 2000fps at 90gr it's almost like getting hit by I rifle round.

[luchador768]

Hence why most people realize that it's shot placement, not caliber, that makes the difference.

.45 ACP is still a great round, but if you shoot the wrong place even .50BMG is survivable.

The post was not to put down the .45 acp. Although I do get sick of hearing all the urban legend FUD that has been spread about the round. I just wanted to share a pretty interesting gun related event from work. Looking at the wound, he pretty obviously flinched, if he had not he would have succeded without a doubt. The entry wound was literally bigger than the size of a golf ball. The other real world shooting results that I see every so often is the 12 ga. #7 or #8 bird shot vs. bad guy. Even a dead center chest shot is not a fight stopper beyond about 8 feet. Keep #4 or bigger in your HD shotguns people!
Peter

I would hate to test your .50 BMG theory!

[luchador768]

Damn, you are lucky. We never get **** like that in the ER where I work, but we don't have a trauma unit. Way to find a gun loving coworker too

Ain't hipaa a *****!

Yeah, it was a trip to have Zepol walk in while I was posting!

[Biff...]

If he really wanted to die, why didn't he just shoot himself again?

He probably just wanted to conserve his .45 acp stash. Considering his aim maybe a trip to the range is needed

[ZepoL]

Yeah, it was a trip to have Zepol walk in while I was posting!

What can I say? Guess both of us night-shifters are hooked on CGN.

[SCMA-1]

lol thats notihng. try seeing a picture of a guy who had used his mouth in order to crimp a blasting cap. well he bit to hard and looked like the fraking predator.

I got that pic! How quickly do you think it would be removed if I posted it here?

[xrMike]

Limpwristing.

You think he had a FTE (stove-pipe) too?

[dwtt]

Aren't there any bridges near San Diego? If the guy had jumped off a bridge, it would have been more effective and it wouldn't have given the antis ammunition for more antigun laws.

[hellraiser]

Reminds me of the end of Fight Club.

im glad someone else thought the same thing...

[illuminate10]

"Must've" been just a 185 grain or lighter.